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<p>[QUOTE="AncientJoe, post: 3348628, member: 44357"]I had the same reaction when first learning about ancient coins but it is indeed the case. What we consider a coin only dates to somewhere in the 660 BC range. These aren't dated via carbon dating but rather by where they were found. Happily, as buildings were constructed, it was common practice to place an "emission deposit" for the building's good fortune which included coins. The construction of major ancient temples is fairly well understood chronologically which was able to establish a starting date for several types of electrum coinage, although there is still some ambiguity.</p><p><br /></p><p>Striated electrum is often thought to have preceded the Lydian coinage. They circulated contemporaneously and these designs are definitely more simplistic so it's possible they came first (~660 BC), although there is a fair amount of active research ongoing in this area.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]886705[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>The next evolution was the coinage of Phanes as posted above. It is not known who Phanes was or if it was a person but they put the first letters on coins:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]886707[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>The next progression was the coinage of Lydia. While remaining a topic of debate by some, this type is now commonly considered to be the first official coin, meeting all of the requirements laid out in the dictionary definition: it is the first coin to have certified markings which signify a specific exchange value and be issued by a governmental authority for use as money. Earlier coins like the striated and geometric types failed to clearly meet the final criteria, whereas the lion was consistently associated with Lydia.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]886708[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Up until now, coinage was still struck in electrum, an alloy of gold and silver. It took until Croesus (of "Rich as Croesus" fame) to create bimetallic currency, starting with this heavy gold stater:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]886709[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>It is fascinating that ancient Egypt only used bartering for thousands of years of their existence. Their first real ancient coin was minted under Pharoah Nektenebo II in 361 BC. That's closer to modern day than the first pyramids.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]886710[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>There is ample ongoing research in this field, especially awaiting the publication of the new "White Gold" book which should set the record straight on several misconceptions (i.e. electrum being only a naturally occurring alloy is incorrect: they controlled the ratio of silver/gold to increase profit margins).[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="AncientJoe, post: 3348628, member: 44357"]I had the same reaction when first learning about ancient coins but it is indeed the case. What we consider a coin only dates to somewhere in the 660 BC range. These aren't dated via carbon dating but rather by where they were found. Happily, as buildings were constructed, it was common practice to place an "emission deposit" for the building's good fortune which included coins. The construction of major ancient temples is fairly well understood chronologically which was able to establish a starting date for several types of electrum coinage, although there is still some ambiguity. Striated electrum is often thought to have preceded the Lydian coinage. They circulated contemporaneously and these designs are definitely more simplistic so it's possible they came first (~660 BC), although there is a fair amount of active research ongoing in this area. [ATTACH=full]886705[/ATTACH] The next evolution was the coinage of Phanes as posted above. It is not known who Phanes was or if it was a person but they put the first letters on coins: [ATTACH=full]886707[/ATTACH] The next progression was the coinage of Lydia. While remaining a topic of debate by some, this type is now commonly considered to be the first official coin, meeting all of the requirements laid out in the dictionary definition: it is the first coin to have certified markings which signify a specific exchange value and be issued by a governmental authority for use as money. Earlier coins like the striated and geometric types failed to clearly meet the final criteria, whereas the lion was consistently associated with Lydia. [ATTACH=full]886708[/ATTACH] Up until now, coinage was still struck in electrum, an alloy of gold and silver. It took until Croesus (of "Rich as Croesus" fame) to create bimetallic currency, starting with this heavy gold stater: [ATTACH=full]886709[/ATTACH] It is fascinating that ancient Egypt only used bartering for thousands of years of their existence. Their first real ancient coin was minted under Pharoah Nektenebo II in 361 BC. That's closer to modern day than the first pyramids. [ATTACH=full]886710[/ATTACH] There is ample ongoing research in this field, especially awaiting the publication of the new "White Gold" book which should set the record straight on several misconceptions (i.e. electrum being only a naturally occurring alloy is incorrect: they controlled the ratio of silver/gold to increase profit margins).[/QUOTE]
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