Log in or Sign up
Coin Talk
Home
Forums
>
Coin Forums
>
Ancient Coins
>
Ancient coins
>
Reply to Thread
Message:
<p>[QUOTE="kaparthy, post: 206, member: 57463"]<b>Greeks and Romans and Celts (and Jews)! Oh my!!</b></p><p><br /></p><p>One problem with ancients is all the HOAXES out there. Let me explain.</p><p><br /></p><p>The way I understand ancient coins is as artifacts of ANCIENT HISTORY. You have to know your cultures and peoples and persons for the coins to make any sense. Most people who are attracted to ancients understand and appreciate the ROMAN EMPIRE. Then, without really knowing the history of Rome, they fall for some 3rd century "silver" fouree that costs $5 and is not worth 5 cents. </p><p><br /></p><p>If you know the history of Rome, you stand a better chance of buying something that really speaks to your heart. (And I know an engineer who really truly does relate to the ultimate goal of a process and he does really like coins of the fall of the western Romans.) For me, when I collected, my interest was REPUBLICAN ROME and then also THE FIVE GOOD EMPERORS (also known as the Pax Romana, the height of the empire). As a libertarian, I was happy to own a coin of Marcus Porcius Cato, the last of the republicans. So, you have to know your history.</p><p><br /></p><p>The BEST series of books for Roman and Greek history, literature, and culture, is the LOEB CLASSICS LIBRARY. These little Red (Roman) and Green (Greek) books cost about $20 per volume. They have Latin or Greek on the left and English on the right. I have a few Romans (Cicero, Livy) and more Greeks (Aristotle, Hesiod, Diogenes,...) because I have had more of an interest in the Greeks. </p><p><br /></p><p>Of all the books in English about the ancient world FROM the ancient world, the one book anyone serious about ancient coins needs is PLUTARCH'S LIVES. The standard editions have not been updated in 100 years and are based on Dryden's translation. Plutarch compared and contrasted famous Romans with famous Greeks (Alexander and Julius Caesar, for instance). His biographies are the foundation.</p><p><br /></p><p>After that, the histories -- Thucydides and Herodotus for the Greeks; Suetonius for the Romans -- are easy to find in translation. </p><p><br /></p><p>Everyone is crazy for Celtic stuff these days. Enya is Top 40. Celtic coins are out there. Celtic histories are not.</p><p><br /></p><p>Jewish coins are well supported by Jewish histories, of course, from the first "Yehud" coins of the Persians to the last of the Bar Kochbar revolt pieces.</p><p><br /></p><p>However, Christians need to be mindful that they are often seen as sheep to be shorn by coin dealers (of every religion and none) who sell "Tribute Pennies" for the prices they bring, despite the huge body of literature to the contrary. "Widows Mites" and "30 Shekels" and the "Stater from the Fish" are all doable as, of course, is the denarius of the grape fields. One interesting and affordable collection goal for a Christian is to follow Paul and get one bronze coin from each town. One subset of that quest would be the 12 Churches of Asia. Another would be to get one coin from each of the congregations of the Epistles.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="kaparthy, post: 206, member: 57463"][b]Greeks and Romans and Celts (and Jews)! Oh my!![/b] One problem with ancients is all the HOAXES out there. Let me explain. The way I understand ancient coins is as artifacts of ANCIENT HISTORY. You have to know your cultures and peoples and persons for the coins to make any sense. Most people who are attracted to ancients understand and appreciate the ROMAN EMPIRE. Then, without really knowing the history of Rome, they fall for some 3rd century "silver" fouree that costs $5 and is not worth 5 cents. If you know the history of Rome, you stand a better chance of buying something that really speaks to your heart. (And I know an engineer who really truly does relate to the ultimate goal of a process and he does really like coins of the fall of the western Romans.) For me, when I collected, my interest was REPUBLICAN ROME and then also THE FIVE GOOD EMPERORS (also known as the Pax Romana, the height of the empire). As a libertarian, I was happy to own a coin of Marcus Porcius Cato, the last of the republicans. So, you have to know your history. The BEST series of books for Roman and Greek history, literature, and culture, is the LOEB CLASSICS LIBRARY. These little Red (Roman) and Green (Greek) books cost about $20 per volume. They have Latin or Greek on the left and English on the right. I have a few Romans (Cicero, Livy) and more Greeks (Aristotle, Hesiod, Diogenes,...) because I have had more of an interest in the Greeks. Of all the books in English about the ancient world FROM the ancient world, the one book anyone serious about ancient coins needs is PLUTARCH'S LIVES. The standard editions have not been updated in 100 years and are based on Dryden's translation. Plutarch compared and contrasted famous Romans with famous Greeks (Alexander and Julius Caesar, for instance). His biographies are the foundation. After that, the histories -- Thucydides and Herodotus for the Greeks; Suetonius for the Romans -- are easy to find in translation. Everyone is crazy for Celtic stuff these days. Enya is Top 40. Celtic coins are out there. Celtic histories are not. Jewish coins are well supported by Jewish histories, of course, from the first "Yehud" coins of the Persians to the last of the Bar Kochbar revolt pieces. However, Christians need to be mindful that they are often seen as sheep to be shorn by coin dealers (of every religion and none) who sell "Tribute Pennies" for the prices they bring, despite the huge body of literature to the contrary. "Widows Mites" and "30 Shekels" and the "Stater from the Fish" are all doable as, of course, is the denarius of the grape fields. One interesting and affordable collection goal for a Christian is to follow Paul and get one bronze coin from each town. One subset of that quest would be the 12 Churches of Asia. Another would be to get one coin from each of the congregations of the Epistles.[/QUOTE]
Your name or email address:
Do you already have an account?
No, create an account now.
Yes, my password is:
Forgot your password?
Stay logged in
Coin Talk
Home
Forums
>
Coin Forums
>
Ancient Coins
>
Ancient coins
>
Home
Home
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Activity
Recent Posts
Forums
Forums
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Posts
Competitions
Competitions
Quick Links
Competition Index
Rules, Terms & Conditions
Gallery
Gallery
Quick Links
Search Media
New Media
Showcase
Showcase
Quick Links
Search Items
Most Active Members
New Items
Directory
Directory
Quick Links
Directory Home
New Listings
Members
Members
Quick Links
Notable Members
Current Visitors
Recent Activity
New Profile Posts
Sponsors
Menu
Search
Search titles only
Posted by Member:
Separate names with a comma.
Newer Than:
Search this thread only
Search this forum only
Display results as threads
Useful Searches
Recent Posts
More...