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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;medoraman, post: 2622938, member: 26302&quot;]Ok, you have me. How about concrete? We take it for granted today but the west forgot how to make if for a millenia.</p><p><br /></p><p>Btw, we think we know what his mistake was, but we have no idea if he was just smarter than us. I distinctly dislike computer theories and proofs. They may work, but completely lose any elegance and insight. They are complete only in a technical sense, displaying no genius insights humans possess.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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