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<p>[QUOTE="4to2centBC, post: 2448131, member: 76181"]Yes, but I think you disqualify the implied guarantee to readily. I think they are being very misleading and I will be checking on that with the right people. </p><p><br /></p><p>As for whether it is good for NGC to guarantee ancients or not, should not be our concern. Nor is it the laws. </p><p><br /></p><p>If you are NOT going to guarantee it, then don't dress it up like something more than what it is. Don't give it the appearance of your guaranteed US Coins and hide a disclaimer on a website. THAT IS DECEPTIVE. I'm not yelling, just pointing out the deception. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Yes, that is my point. You would think that the risk was lower, but there is no guarantee, therefore you never know if the risk is lower. Dave and Barry are the experts on all coins. Wow, they are good. Hope it doesn't get busy there. But if it does get busy, what is the incentive to be accurate?? None.</p><p><br /></p><p>Are you going to break open your slabs to check and then pay to have good ones re-slabbed when you go to resell.........because people demand it (based on false assumptions due to deceptive advertising and packaging?). </p><p><br /></p><p>I much prefer knowing my coins have been handled by numerous people at the dealer or auction by numerous people, dealers and collectors. That is how you reduce risk. You don't hand them to 2 guys and then seal them for a price and a sign of faith. </p><p><br /></p><p>Some people argue...I don't care, I don't buy them. Well you may soon be forced to, especially if you listen to the slab promoters. </p><p><br /></p><p>Others argue, the price is insignificant because I buy high end coins. Well, nice solidarity with your poorer collecting friends. And get used to cracking and repacking coins when you re-sell. </p><p> </p><p>Others argue.....focus on MOU's. Well MOU's are between countries and if you think fighting slabs is hard, then forget about MOU's. This argument is classic misdirection. Fight battles that can be won. This can be won.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Want know how important that implied guarantee is to their ancient slabbing business?? Try to get them to put that website disclaimer on their slabs.</p><p><br /></p><p>I can "guarantee" they would never do that.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="4to2centBC, post: 2448131, member: 76181"]Yes, but I think you disqualify the implied guarantee to readily. I think they are being very misleading and I will be checking on that with the right people. As for whether it is good for NGC to guarantee ancients or not, should not be our concern. Nor is it the laws. If you are NOT going to guarantee it, then don't dress it up like something more than what it is. Don't give it the appearance of your guaranteed US Coins and hide a disclaimer on a website. THAT IS DECEPTIVE. I'm not yelling, just pointing out the deception. Yes, that is my point. You would think that the risk was lower, but there is no guarantee, therefore you never know if the risk is lower. Dave and Barry are the experts on all coins. Wow, they are good. Hope it doesn't get busy there. But if it does get busy, what is the incentive to be accurate?? None. Are you going to break open your slabs to check and then pay to have good ones re-slabbed when you go to resell.........because people demand it (based on false assumptions due to deceptive advertising and packaging?). I much prefer knowing my coins have been handled by numerous people at the dealer or auction by numerous people, dealers and collectors. That is how you reduce risk. You don't hand them to 2 guys and then seal them for a price and a sign of faith. Some people argue...I don't care, I don't buy them. Well you may soon be forced to, especially if you listen to the slab promoters. Others argue, the price is insignificant because I buy high end coins. Well, nice solidarity with your poorer collecting friends. And get used to cracking and repacking coins when you re-sell. Others argue.....focus on MOU's. Well MOU's are between countries and if you think fighting slabs is hard, then forget about MOU's. This argument is classic misdirection. Fight battles that can be won. This can be won. Want know how important that implied guarantee is to their ancient slabbing business?? Try to get them to put that website disclaimer on their slabs. I can "guarantee" they would never do that.[/QUOTE]
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