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<p>[QUOTE="AncientJoe, post: 1644072, member: 44357"]<span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">I'm afraid your entire argument is invalidated by the fact that the dealer in the clip doesn't and never has worked for NGC. Rather, he's a private dealer</span> who sets up at almost all national shows.</p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span><span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">It costs $35 to slab a coin < $3K in value. The price tiers increase as value goes up, but only slightly. I agree that there's a point at which it doesn't make sense to spend the $35 to get it slabbed, but for a collector just entering the market, I think it would save a lot of potential headaches. As for buyers moving elsewhere when sellers don't fully describe their product, that's apparently not going to happen. Major auction houses are very frequently understating problems on high value coins. The most egregious example I ran into in the last couple weeks was at the Goldberg sale - they had a $30-40K coin that was listed as a "pleasing problem-free example". Alas, it had a major scratch right on the highest points of the obverse which was a major visual distraction. I found the previous two sales of the coin and neither auction mentioned it either. I know there's a degree of acceptable problem here but this was pretty bad.</span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">Additionally, up until two days before the auction, they had a Trajan aureus available on the auction which was already up to $20K in online bidding with multiple bidders. They were then told by David Vagi (the same person that is the Director of NGC Ancients) that it was </span>fake and they withdrew the lot.</p><p><br /></p><p>Large auction houses guarantee the legitimacy of their coins for life but it's still possible to make mistakes and frankly, I'll take as many opinions as I can get on a coin.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>It's easy to damage coins when raw. Yes, they've survived so far, but many of them haven't been in people's hands. I just see it as easier to store/manage when in holders, and it is definitely safer for specific high grade coins in my eyes.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="AncientJoe, post: 1644072, member: 44357"][COLOR=#000000] I'm afraid your entire argument is invalidated by the fact that the dealer in the clip doesn't and never has worked for NGC. Rather, he's a private dealer[/COLOR] who sets up at almost all national shows. [COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000] It costs $35 to slab a coin < $3K in value. The price tiers increase as value goes up, but only slightly. I agree that there's a point at which it doesn't make sense to spend the $35 to get it slabbed, but for a collector just entering the market, I think it would save a lot of potential headaches. As for buyers moving elsewhere when sellers don't fully describe their product, that's apparently not going to happen. Major auction houses are very frequently understating problems on high value coins. The most egregious example I ran into in the last couple weeks was at the Goldberg sale - they had a $30-40K coin that was listed as a "pleasing problem-free example". Alas, it had a major scratch right on the highest points of the obverse which was a major visual distraction. I found the previous two sales of the coin and neither auction mentioned it either. I know there's a degree of acceptable problem here but this was pretty bad. Additionally, up until two days before the auction, they had a Trajan aureus available on the auction which was already up to $20K in online bidding with multiple bidders. They were then told by David Vagi (the same person that is the Director of NGC Ancients) that it was [/COLOR]fake and they withdrew the lot. Large auction houses guarantee the legitimacy of their coins for life but it's still possible to make mistakes and frankly, I'll take as many opinions as I can get on a coin. [COLOR=#000000][/COLOR] It's easy to damage coins when raw. Yes, they've survived so far, but many of them haven't been in people's hands. I just see it as easier to store/manage when in holders, and it is definitely safer for specific high grade coins in my eyes.[/QUOTE]
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