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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;dougsmit, post: 2492734, member: 19463&quot;]No.&nbsp; A real problem is that severe, abusive cleaning reduces the value of a genuine coin so much that the question as to whether it is real or not becomes moot from a &#039;value&#039; perspective.&nbsp; I can&#039;t &#039;prove&#039; these photos show real or genuine coins.&nbsp; Such cleaning removes some signs of being genuine that would make me more likely feel comfortable with them.&nbsp; If I saw the coins in person at a coin show and examined them determining that I though they were probably good, I still would not be interested in them.&nbsp; I am not as concerned with condition as many people but I would rather pay $80 for an example twice as nice as $8 for these.&nbsp;&nbsp; There are two questions.&nbsp; Are they authentic?&nbsp; If we don&#039;t want them, does it matter?&nbsp;&nbsp; That is being too rough.&nbsp; If I were unable to find a better example of the first three and if I convinced myself they were good, I&#039;d buy them for $8 (maybe a bit more for 1 &amp;2?) as space fillers.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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