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Message:: [QUOTE="medoraman, post: 1296733, member: 26302"]But not as commonly. I stand behind my opinion that these are authentic, and I agree with all of Zhou's points. Common northern Sung or Ching coins faked are usually tourist fakes and easily spotted. I have some, and can spot them in a second or two. David Jen in his book had a good writeup of the "feel" or "soul" of a coin, and when I was a beginner it sounded like hogwash. Reading it again and its an excellent point. THe authentic examples were perfectly balanced, and "live" in their calligraphy. Most forgeries, especially cheap ones which fakes of these would need to be, just do not have that perfection. These words on coins were not treated like we treat words, they were also miniature pieces of art, and their prefect rendition were required. Most forgers, especially cheap ones, do not get this feel right. It really is hard to understand unless you have been around these much more. Hopefully some of our other cash collectors here can input their views. Chris[/QUOTE]