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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Loong Siew, post: 2425071, member: 75799&quot;]To be honest I can&#039;t really read the characters well amongst the patination. But in Hartill&#039;s book, Ding Xiang is the only piece I saw that had the loop. Also, the first character of the xxx Xiang character appears to have less strokes thus I would hazard a guess that Ding 定 seemed more likely[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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