Ancient Chinese Qi Knife

So, my obverse says DING Xiang instead of YAN Xiang?

 

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To be honest I can't really read the characters well amongst the patination. But in Hartill's book, Ding Xiang is the only piece I saw that had the loop. Also, the first character of the xxx Xiang character appears to have less strokes thus I would hazard a guess that Ding 定 seemed more likely

 

Just so you know, the side with "Ming" is considered the obverse (the side you just added). The side with "Xing" is considered the reverse because that inscription is often different.

 

When I put yours and mine together... They do not seem the same... Are you sure mine would be Hartill 13.57?

I looked at Hartill again...and it seems like it IS more like H13.53...

 

Thank you! I am still learning Obv/Rev orientation in some of this.

And, FIXED in my photo files!

 

I could be wrong.. the 四朱 is the same.. the other 2 I'm only guessing as I can't read it very clearly although I agree I could be wrong

 

I agree. Hartill is NOT all-inclusive for this type of coinage. I don't have an example yet, but I'm going to buy one from Frank Robinson soon.

Maybe you could try a pencil rubbing? That usually brings the characters out more.

 

This one is from Frank.

 

This is all VERY helpful and GREAT! Thanks Guys...

 

Awesome "coin"! Here is my hollow spade "coin", not 100% on authenticity, Chinese coins is a weakness of mine. State of Jin/Zhao circa 450 BC

 

CHINA, ZHOU Dynasty
1122-255 BCE
AE small square foot spade
An Yang, bronze, 30x45mm
Ref: Hartill 3.182, S-13+

 

@noname Usually, breaks and cracks are a good sign for the authenticity of Chinese coins as they mean old metal. I have a counterfeit of Gan Dan spade like yours, and the metal bends, not breaks.

I guess while we're at it, here are my spades:

There are still a few types I need, but they are the very expensive ones with the exception of one.

 

Wow! Awesome collection thanks for the reply, where would I get authentic Chinese coins? I know I could try Vcoins, but who'd you suggest?

 

Stay away from Vcoins. I have seen a few fakes (Wang Mang spades) and everything is overpriced. The hollow-handles I got from Teutoburger and Archives International (but be careful, I have seen some fake stuff in their auctions), the pointed foot can from Archives International, the two square-foots came from eBay, the large square-foot came from Archives International, the value-1000 spade came from Archives International, and the Huo-Bu spade came from Scott Semans.

Dealers I would recommend are Bob Reis, Scott Semans, and Frank Robinson. I know that they have some spades, knives, etc for sale.

 

Thanks

 

Mine are from Bob Reis and Frank Robinson.

 

I know Bob.. highly recommends his stuff.

 

So I was at a coin show yesterday and happened across a Chou Dynasty Knife - I'm very skeptical of its authenticity, but I did buy it in person from a known dealer albeit they deal mostly in US coinage. I casually mentioned that these types are often faked and he reassured me several times of its genuineness. It didn't cost much so I bought it . . . now with it in hand I start checking to see what exactly I bought. It seems to me this is a Chou Dynasty Six Character Knife and I matched it to Schjöth 44. If indeed it is genuine this would be an unimaginable score.

The knife is 16.7cm long and I got a weight of 64g on a food scale the width at the tip of the knife end is 2.9cm. The patina is hard and does not come off.



any thoughts?

 

It is not genuine

 

I suspected as much. Thank you for taking the time to look. -d