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<p>[QUOTE="sand, post: 7806357, member: 118540"]I agree, that fakes are a huge problem, in the area of ancient Chinese coins, and Chinese coins from the dark ages, middle ages, and modern times. I have approximately 25 Chinese coins in my collection, from ancient times, the dark ages, the middle ages, and the early Renaissance.</p><p>I have tried to buy most of my Chinese coins from persons, whom I thought were pretty good at authenticating ancient Chinese coins. A. M. Fishman (expert), Scott Semans (expert), Breitsprecher (seems very knowledgeable), and Midwest Numismatics (seems knowledgeable).</p><p>If I ever wanted to sell the coins, then I'd probably provide evidence, that I purchased the coins from these persons, in the form of screen captures, of the seller web pages, which show the listings, coin photos, price, etc. I also have kept some of the paper invoices. Such evidence may be helpful.</p><p>However, it would be nice, if there were someone, who was an acknowledged expert in Chinese coins of all eras, who offered an authentication service, in which the expert would examine a coin, then declare the coin authentic or fake, and if the coin is authentic, then issue a certificate of authenticity (COA), with an ID number on the certificate, which could be used, to lookup photos of the coin, on an internet database, the way NGC has a photo lookup service for its ancients slabs. This would be very helpful, in my opinion, because each Chinese coin looks different, in the same way that each ancient Greek, Roman, or Byzantine coin looks different (different style, different strike or cast, different wear, different patina, etc).</p><p>After collecting Chinese coins for approximately 1 year, I think I can tell, a real Chinese coin, from a bad fake with a fake patina, or maybe even a mediocre fake with a fake patina. Especially for the coin types, that I prefer to collect, because I am familiar with them (just like certain types of ancient Greek, Roman, and Byzantine coins). But a good fake with a fake patina? I don't know.</p><p>Another problem, is that all Chinese coins were cast, not struck, until 1889. That makes Chinese coins more difficult to authenticate.</p><p>As far as non-round ancient Chinese money goes (knife money, spade money, etc), I don't collect any of that, therefore I'm not good at identifying fake stuff in that area.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="sand, post: 7806357, member: 118540"]I agree, that fakes are a huge problem, in the area of ancient Chinese coins, and Chinese coins from the dark ages, middle ages, and modern times. I have approximately 25 Chinese coins in my collection, from ancient times, the dark ages, the middle ages, and the early Renaissance. I have tried to buy most of my Chinese coins from persons, whom I thought were pretty good at authenticating ancient Chinese coins. A. M. Fishman (expert), Scott Semans (expert), Breitsprecher (seems very knowledgeable), and Midwest Numismatics (seems knowledgeable). If I ever wanted to sell the coins, then I'd probably provide evidence, that I purchased the coins from these persons, in the form of screen captures, of the seller web pages, which show the listings, coin photos, price, etc. I also have kept some of the paper invoices. Such evidence may be helpful. However, it would be nice, if there were someone, who was an acknowledged expert in Chinese coins of all eras, who offered an authentication service, in which the expert would examine a coin, then declare the coin authentic or fake, and if the coin is authentic, then issue a certificate of authenticity (COA), with an ID number on the certificate, which could be used, to lookup photos of the coin, on an internet database, the way NGC has a photo lookup service for its ancients slabs. This would be very helpful, in my opinion, because each Chinese coin looks different, in the same way that each ancient Greek, Roman, or Byzantine coin looks different (different style, different strike or cast, different wear, different patina, etc). After collecting Chinese coins for approximately 1 year, I think I can tell, a real Chinese coin, from a bad fake with a fake patina, or maybe even a mediocre fake with a fake patina. Especially for the coin types, that I prefer to collect, because I am familiar with them (just like certain types of ancient Greek, Roman, and Byzantine coins). But a good fake with a fake patina? I don't know. Another problem, is that all Chinese coins were cast, not struck, until 1889. That makes Chinese coins more difficult to authenticate. As far as non-round ancient Chinese money goes (knife money, spade money, etc), I don't collect any of that, therefore I'm not good at identifying fake stuff in that area.[/QUOTE]
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