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<p>[QUOTE="Plumbata, post: 3354313, member: 96864"]Dang, that's sad news all around [USER=78244]@TypeCoin971793[/USER] , the patina looked pretty good from this side of the screen. Not the typical amateur job as seen on most goofy "ancient" Chinese bronze items. Maybe you could still try to get your money back by threatening to leave scathing reviews all over the internet? From the sounds of it they had it priced as though it were real, not like a 19.99 souvenir.</p><p><br /></p><p>[USER=99412]@PeteB[/USER] That ring is great, but is the "stone" made of glass? The marring around the bezel makes me think the ring may have been crushed which shattered the stone, and after discovery the band was probably restored back to shape before you obtained it.</p><p><br /></p><p>[USER=99613]@Numisnewbiest[/USER] to get a bit nitpicky the beige material isn't encrustation <i>covering </i>the original surface (like a bloom of rust covering iron artifacts) but actually <i>is</i> the original surface which has been converted to Lead Carbonate and Oxide, in the same way that fine green bronze artifacts or coins have had their surface bronze turn to copper salts. Removal would completely destroy the piece.</p><p><br /></p><p>As Ken stated it is very difficult to date and attribute plain bullets without good provenance, but if it's from Iberia then a 1st century BC Roman (or Romano-Iberian) Sertorian War (80-72BC) or Caesar's Civil War origin is likely, with most dealers of Iberian bullets claiming a 45BC "Battle of Munda" association whether actually true or not. Inscribed bullets from both wars can be obtained and are extremely interesting. Your piece looks a lot like a presumed Sertorian War bullet I have but you really can't reliably attribute plain bullets as there was so much overlap across cultures and time.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Plumbata, post: 3354313, member: 96864"]Dang, that's sad news all around [USER=78244]@TypeCoin971793[/USER] , the patina looked pretty good from this side of the screen. Not the typical amateur job as seen on most goofy "ancient" Chinese bronze items. Maybe you could still try to get your money back by threatening to leave scathing reviews all over the internet? From the sounds of it they had it priced as though it were real, not like a 19.99 souvenir. [USER=99412]@PeteB[/USER] That ring is great, but is the "stone" made of glass? The marring around the bezel makes me think the ring may have been crushed which shattered the stone, and after discovery the band was probably restored back to shape before you obtained it. [USER=99613]@Numisnewbiest[/USER] to get a bit nitpicky the beige material isn't encrustation [I]covering [/I]the original surface (like a bloom of rust covering iron artifacts) but actually [I]is[/I] the original surface which has been converted to Lead Carbonate and Oxide, in the same way that fine green bronze artifacts or coins have had their surface bronze turn to copper salts. Removal would completely destroy the piece. As Ken stated it is very difficult to date and attribute plain bullets without good provenance, but if it's from Iberia then a 1st century BC Roman (or Romano-Iberian) Sertorian War (80-72BC) or Caesar's Civil War origin is likely, with most dealers of Iberian bullets claiming a 45BC "Battle of Munda" association whether actually true or not. Inscribed bullets from both wars can be obtained and are extremely interesting. Your piece looks a lot like a presumed Sertorian War bullet I have but you really can't reliably attribute plain bullets as there was so much overlap across cultures and time.[/QUOTE]
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