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<p>[QUOTE="Midas, post: 129233, member: 2761"]For the love of Pete, I did state there were exceptions here and there and you found some of them. As for the 1881-S example, some of these coins sold at much higher than normal prices because they were toned examples (as I <u>clearly</u> mentioned in my post). </p><p><br /></p><p>LOOK at the <u>entire</u> spectrum of coins sold in this short time period (that means less than a year) and prices REALIZED across the ENTIRE SPECTRUM.</p><p><br /></p><p>I could care less what you do, what you collect, and who you submut to. Your argument is like a little kid who takes the ball home so nobody can play. The question came up on which TPG to submit to and I offered a solid opinion based on <b>REAL</b> market pricing and <b>REAL</b> facts.</p><p><br /></p><p>I forgot about Teletrade. Let's look at Teletrade because they sell a bunch of coins graded by the top TPG's. Let's see how some of their auctions have done and the prices the TPG's in question REALIZED:</p><p><br /></p><p><b>How about a 1950 Franklin Proof?</b> I know that they are dear to you...</p><p><br /></p><p>Apr 10 2006 Half Dollar 1950 Proof PCGS 65 CAM $1456* </p><p>Mar 5 2006 Half Dollar 1950 Proof NGC 65 CAM $1400* </p><p>Dec 19 2005 Half Dollar 1950 Proof NGC 65 CAM $1344* </p><p>Nov 28 2005 Half Dollar 1950 Proof PCGS 65 CAM $1624* </p><p><br /></p><p>Nov 20 2005 Half Dollar 1950 Proof NGC 66 $448* </p><p>Oct 23 2005 Half Dollar 1950 Proof NGC 66 $504* </p><p>Sep 14 2005 Half Dollar 1950 Proof PCGS 66 $560* </p><p>Jun 27 2005 Half Dollar 1950 Proof NGC 66 * $523* </p><p><br /></p><p><b>How about a "run-of-the-mill" 1954 MS Franklin?</b></p><p><br /></p><p>May 1 2006 Half Dollar 1954 PCGS 65 $179* </p><p>Apr 19 2006 Half Dollar 1954 PCGS 65 $63* </p><p>Apr 3 2006 Half Dollar 1954 NGC 65 $38* </p><p>Mar 5 2006 Half Dollar 1954 PCGS 65 $58* </p><p><br /></p><p><b>How about 1931-S Lincoln?</b></p><p><br /></p><p>Apr 30 2006 Small Cent 1931S PCGS 64 RD $314* </p><p>Apr 19 2006 Small Cent 1931S PCGS 64 RD $291* </p><p>Jan 1 2006 Small Cent 1931S PCGS 64 RD $280* </p><p>Nov 21 2005 Small Cent 1931S NGC 64 RD $213* </p><p><br /></p><p><b>How a 1955 Proof Lincoln?</b></p><p><br /></p><p>Mar 29 2006 Small Cent 1955 Proof PCGS 67 CAM $146* </p><p>Mar 6 2006 Small Cent 1955 Proof PCGS 67 CAM $213* </p><p>Feb 20 2006 Small Cent 1955 Proof PCGS 67 CAM $168* </p><p>Feb 8 2006 Small Cent 1955 Proof NGC 67 RD CAM $95* </p><p><br /></p><p><b>Silver American Eagles anybody?</b></p><p><br /></p><p>Apr 19 2006 Bullion Silver Dollar 1995P Proof Eagle NGC 69 Ultra Cam $202* </p><p>Mar 27 2006 Bullion Silver Dollar 1995P Proof Eagle NGC 69 Ultra Cam $157* </p><p>Mar 8 2006 Bullion Silver Dollar 1995P Proof Eagle PCGS 69 DCAM $246* </p><p>Mar 6 2006 Bullion Silver Dollar 1995P Proof Eagle PCGS 69 DCAM $224* </p><p><br /></p><p>Apr 30 2006 Bullion Silver Dollar 2001W Proof Eagle PCGS 70 DCAM $616* </p><p>Apr 23 2006 Bullion Silver Dollar 2001W Proof Eagle NGC 70 Ultra Cam $168* </p><p>Apr 17 2006 Bullion Silver Dollar 2001W Proof Eagle NGC 70 Ultra Cam $213* </p><p>Apr 2 2006 Bullion Silver Dollar 2001W Proof Eagle NGC 70 Ultra Cam $168* </p><p><br /></p><p><b>An oldie but goldie...the 1913 Buffalo Nickel:</b></p><p><br /></p><p>May 3 2006 Nickel 1913 Type 1 NGC 65 $134* </p><p>Apr 23 2006 Nickel 1913 Type 1 PCGS 65 $179* </p><p>Mar 29 2006 Nickel 1913 Type 1 NGC 65 $134* </p><p>Mar 27 2006 Nickel 1913 Type 1 PCGS 65 $168* </p><p><br /></p><p>My point is clear. If you are going to submit coins for grading in hopes of <u>protecting</u> the liquidity of our assets or by <u>obtaining</u> the HIGHEST value of your collection, you need to take look at a number of factors including which TPG service realizes the highest prices in the numismatic community. </p><p><br /></p><p>This is not for collectors that are determined to convince newbies that ANACS is better than or NGC is the best or Midas Grading Service (MGS) is the best...BTW, remember...the 4th staple is FREE and your grades come back MS70 if you pay up front</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie11" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p><p>This is for those people who have a coin(s) and are thinking about submitting it for grading and authentication whereby they then will have a more LIQUID asset than if the coin was sold raw. If you buy the coin, buy from whoever you want and get the best coin raw or in any slab you can get...</p><p><br /></p><p>BUT...when it comes time to sell (as our coins will all outlive us), consider the market forces in hand. I do![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Midas, post: 129233, member: 2761"]For the love of Pete, I did state there were exceptions here and there and you found some of them. As for the 1881-S example, some of these coins sold at much higher than normal prices because they were toned examples (as I [U]clearly[/U] mentioned in my post). LOOK at the [U]entire[/U] spectrum of coins sold in this short time period (that means less than a year) and prices REALIZED across the ENTIRE SPECTRUM. I could care less what you do, what you collect, and who you submut to. Your argument is like a little kid who takes the ball home so nobody can play. The question came up on which TPG to submit to and I offered a solid opinion based on [B]REAL[/B] market pricing and [B]REAL[/B] facts. I forgot about Teletrade. Let's look at Teletrade because they sell a bunch of coins graded by the top TPG's. Let's see how some of their auctions have done and the prices the TPG's in question REALIZED: [B]How about a 1950 Franklin Proof?[/B] I know that they are dear to you... Apr 10 2006 Half Dollar 1950 Proof PCGS 65 CAM $1456* Mar 5 2006 Half Dollar 1950 Proof NGC 65 CAM $1400* Dec 19 2005 Half Dollar 1950 Proof NGC 65 CAM $1344* Nov 28 2005 Half Dollar 1950 Proof PCGS 65 CAM $1624* Nov 20 2005 Half Dollar 1950 Proof NGC 66 $448* Oct 23 2005 Half Dollar 1950 Proof NGC 66 $504* Sep 14 2005 Half Dollar 1950 Proof PCGS 66 $560* Jun 27 2005 Half Dollar 1950 Proof NGC 66 * $523* [B]How about a "run-of-the-mill" 1954 MS Franklin?[/B] May 1 2006 Half Dollar 1954 PCGS 65 $179* Apr 19 2006 Half Dollar 1954 PCGS 65 $63* Apr 3 2006 Half Dollar 1954 NGC 65 $38* Mar 5 2006 Half Dollar 1954 PCGS 65 $58* [B]How about 1931-S Lincoln?[/B] Apr 30 2006 Small Cent 1931S PCGS 64 RD $314* Apr 19 2006 Small Cent 1931S PCGS 64 RD $291* Jan 1 2006 Small Cent 1931S PCGS 64 RD $280* Nov 21 2005 Small Cent 1931S NGC 64 RD $213* [B]How a 1955 Proof Lincoln?[/B] Mar 29 2006 Small Cent 1955 Proof PCGS 67 CAM $146* Mar 6 2006 Small Cent 1955 Proof PCGS 67 CAM $213* Feb 20 2006 Small Cent 1955 Proof PCGS 67 CAM $168* Feb 8 2006 Small Cent 1955 Proof NGC 67 RD CAM $95* [B]Silver American Eagles anybody?[/B] Apr 19 2006 Bullion Silver Dollar 1995P Proof Eagle NGC 69 Ultra Cam $202* Mar 27 2006 Bullion Silver Dollar 1995P Proof Eagle NGC 69 Ultra Cam $157* Mar 8 2006 Bullion Silver Dollar 1995P Proof Eagle PCGS 69 DCAM $246* Mar 6 2006 Bullion Silver Dollar 1995P Proof Eagle PCGS 69 DCAM $224* Apr 30 2006 Bullion Silver Dollar 2001W Proof Eagle PCGS 70 DCAM $616* Apr 23 2006 Bullion Silver Dollar 2001W Proof Eagle NGC 70 Ultra Cam $168* Apr 17 2006 Bullion Silver Dollar 2001W Proof Eagle NGC 70 Ultra Cam $213* Apr 2 2006 Bullion Silver Dollar 2001W Proof Eagle NGC 70 Ultra Cam $168* [B]An oldie but goldie...the 1913 Buffalo Nickel:[/B] May 3 2006 Nickel 1913 Type 1 NGC 65 $134* Apr 23 2006 Nickel 1913 Type 1 PCGS 65 $179* Mar 29 2006 Nickel 1913 Type 1 NGC 65 $134* Mar 27 2006 Nickel 1913 Type 1 PCGS 65 $168* My point is clear. If you are going to submit coins for grading in hopes of [U]protecting[/U] the liquidity of our assets or by [U]obtaining[/U] the HIGHEST value of your collection, you need to take look at a number of factors including which TPG service realizes the highest prices in the numismatic community. This is not for collectors that are determined to convince newbies that ANACS is better than or NGC is the best or Midas Grading Service (MGS) is the best...BTW, remember...the 4th staple is FREE and your grades come back MS70 if you pay up front :rolleyes: This is for those people who have a coin(s) and are thinking about submitting it for grading and authentication whereby they then will have a more LIQUID asset than if the coin was sold raw. If you buy the coin, buy from whoever you want and get the best coin raw or in any slab you can get... BUT...when it comes time to sell (as our coins will all outlive us), consider the market forces in hand. I do![/QUOTE]
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