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<p>[QUOTE="Midas, post: 129206, member: 2761"]I didn't make the rules...I didn't set the market...I didn't influence the numismatic community over the last 20 years...All I did was research the market place and then offered FACTS and LINKS to support my argument.</p><p> </p><p>I own coins from all of the top TPG's, but the question came up to <b>who should you submit to</b>? Well, if I am going to go through the hassle and expense of coin submissions, I want the service that will not only offer my coin a grade and authentication, but will be respected and <u>demanded</u> in the numismatic community!</p><p> </p><p>Take a look at some coins being sold and better yet, HAVE BEEN SOLD in recent days/months/years:</p><p> </p><p>BTW...From Webster's dictionary...</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Source</b>: 1.) a point of origin 2.) The place of origin for a stream of water 3.) One that supplies information</p><p><br /></p><p><b>The source in this case is Heritage's <span style="color: Red">COMPLETED</span> auctions and <span style="color: red">PRICES REALIZED</span>!</b> </p><p><br /></p><p><b>How about a 1909 VDB </b>1c, a common coin no doubt and one that Lincoln collectors will likely see go up when 2009 comes around. This is just for 2006 (Source again is Heritage...you got it?...it's called a <b>source</b>):</p><p><br /></p><p>May 1, 2006 66 PCGS $218.50 </p><p>May 1, 2006 66 NGC $184.00 </p><p>May 1, 2006 66 PCGS $184.00 </p><p>April 30, 2006 64 ANACS $66.00 </p><p>April 29, 2006 67 PCGS $1,035.00 </p><p>April 10, 2006 66 PCGS $195.50 </p><p>April 10, 2006 66 PCGS $195.50 </p><p>April 10, 2006 66 PCGS $195.50 </p><p>April 10, 2006 66 PCGS $195.50 </p><p>April 10, 2006 66 PCGS $195.50 </p><p>April 10, 2006 66 PCGS $195.50 </p><p>April 10, 2006 66 PCGS $184.00 </p><p>April 7, 2006 67 PCGS $1,265.00 </p><p>April 2, 2006 65 PCGS $92.00 </p><p>March 26, 2006 65 PCGS $97.75 </p><p>March 19, 2006 65 PCGS $92.00 </p><p>March 12, 2006 65 NGC $72.45 </p><p>March 7, 2006 65 NGC $74.75 </p><p>March 6, 2006 66 PCGS $218.50 </p><p>March 6, 2006 66 PCGS $207.00 </p><p>March 6, 2006 66 PCGS $207.00 </p><p>March 6, 2006 66 PCGS $207.00 </p><p>March 5, 2006 65 PCGS $97.75 </p><p>March 5, 2006 65 NGC $74.75 </p><p>March 5, 2006 66 PCGS $184.00 </p><p>March 4, 2006 67 PCGS $1,150.00 </p><p>February 28, 2006 65 PCGS $97.75 </p><p>February 28, 2006 65 NGC $86.25 </p><p>February 28, 2006 66 PCGS $207.00 </p><p>February 21, 2006 65 PCGS $115.00 </p><p>February 21, 2006 65 PCGS $92.00 </p><p>February 21, 2006 66 PCGS $207.00 </p><p>February 19, 2006 65 PCGS $92.00 </p><p>February 19, 2006 65 NGC $80.50 </p><p>February 19, 2006 67 PCGS $1,150.00 </p><p>February 14, 2006 65 PCGS $97.75 </p><p>February 14, 2006 65 NGC $86.25 </p><p>February 14, 2006 66 NGC $149.50 </p><p>February 14, 2006 67 PCGS $1,150.00 </p><p>February 13, 2006 64 PCGS $54.00 </p><p>February 13, 2006 66 PCGS $276.00 </p><p>February 12, 2006 66 PCGS $218.50 </p><p>February 7, 2006 66 PCGS $218.50 </p><p>February 5, 2006 65 NGC $74.75 </p><p>January 15, 2006 64 NGC $48.00 </p><p>January 15, 2006 66 NGC $166.75 </p><p>January 10, 2006 64 NGC $48.00 </p><p>January 10, 2006 65 NGC $80.50 </p><p>January 9, 2006 66 PCGS $184.00 </p><p>January 8, 2006 64 PCGS $51.00 </p><p>January 8, 2006 64 NGC $48.00 </p><p>January 7, 2006 67 PCGS $1,035.00 </p><p>January 7, 2006 67 PCGS $1,150.00 </p><p>January 7, 2006 67 PCGS $805.00 </p><p>January 7, 2006 67 PCGS $1,150.00 </p><p>January 7, 2006 67 PCGS $1,150.00</p><p> </p><p>How about a <b>1881-S Morgan </b>that <span style="color: Red"><b>Zane</b></span> was looking to submit? How has that coin done in the marketplace in just <b>MS65 grades </b>alone (since there is a BUNCH of these that were sold since the first of the year?:</p><p> </p><p>Auction 26051, Lot 13403 Tuesday, May 2, 2006 65 NGC $149.50 </p><p>Auction 26051, Lot 13404 Tuesday, May 2, 2006 65 NGC $138.00 </p><p>Auction 405, Lot 8376 Monday, May 1, 2006 65 PCGS $218.50 </p><p>Auction 405, Lot 8377 Monday, May 1, 2006 65 NGC $161.00 </p><p>Auction 405, Lot 8378 Monday, May 1, 2006 65 NGC $195.50 </p><p>Auction 405, Lot 8379 Monday, May 1, 2006 65 NGC $161.00 </p><p>Auction 405, Lot 8381 Monday, May 1, 2006 65 NGC $207.00 </p><p>Auction 405, Lot 8382 Monday, May 1, 2006 65 NGC $299.00 </p><p>Auction 405, Lot 8383 Monday, May 1, 2006 65 PCGS $276.00 </p><p>Auction 66044, Lot 23350 Sunday, April 23, 2006 65 ANACS $109.25 </p><p>Auction 66044, Lot 23351 Sunday, April 23, 2006 65 ANACS $109.25 </p><p>Auction 66044, Lot 23352 Sunday, April 23, 2006 65 ANACS $97.75 </p><p>Auction 66044, Lot 23353 Sunday, April 23, 2006 65 NGC $138.00 </p><p>Auction 26043, Lot 13587 Tuesday, April 18, 2006 65 PCGS $149.50 </p><p>Auction 403, Lot 8109 Monday, April 10, 2006 65 NGC $172.50 </p><p>Auction 403, Lot 8110 Monday, April 10, 2006 65 PCGS $126.50 </p><p>Auction 403, Lot 8111 Monday, April 10, 2006 65 NGC $138.00 </p><p>Auction 403, Lot 8112 Monday, April 10, 2006 65 PCGS $126.50 </p><p>Auction 403, Lot 8113 Monday, April 10, 2006 65 NGC $184.00 </p><p>Auction 403, Lot 8114 Monday, April 10, 2006 65 PCGS $149.50 </p><p>Auction 403, Lot 8115 Monday, April 10, 2006 65 PCGS $138.00 </p><p>Auction 403, Lot 8116 Monday, April 10, 2006 65 PCGS $126.50 </p><p>Auction 26041, Lot 13232 Tuesday, April 4, 2006 65 PCGS $149.50 </p><p>Auction 26041, Lot 13233 Tuesday, April 4, 2006 65 NGC $138.00 </p><p>Auction 26041, Lot 13234 Tuesday, April 4, 2006 65 NGC $138.00 </p><p>Auction 26041, Lot 13235 Tuesday, April 4, 2006 65 NGC $121.90 </p><p>Auction 26041, Lot 13236 Tuesday, April 4, 2006 65 NGC $138.00 </p><p>Auction 66041, Lot 24258 Sunday, April 2, 2006 65 NGC $115.00 </p><p>Auction 413, Lot 7925 Monday, March 6, 2006 65 NGC $126.50 </p><p>Auction 413, Lot 7926 Monday, March 6, 2006 65 NGC $138.00 </p><p>Auction 413, Lot 7927 Monday, March 6, 2006 65 NGC $126.50 </p><p>Auction 413, Lot 7928 Monday, March 6, 2006 65 NGC $126.50 </p><p>Auction 66024, Lot 23409 Sunday, February 26, 2006 65 ANACS $126.50 </p><p>Auction 26023, Lot 13443 Tuesday, February 21, 2006 65 PCGS $126.50 </p><p>Auction 26023, Lot 13444 Tuesday, February 21, 2006 65 PCGS $138.00 </p><p>Auction 66023, Lot 24434 Sunday, February 19, 2006 65 NGC $115.00 </p><p>Auction 66023, Lot 24435 Sunday, February 19, 2006 65 ANACS $115.00 </p><p>Auction 66023, Lot 24436 Sunday, February 19, 2006 65 PCGS $126.50 </p><p>Auction 401, Lot 8652 Monday, February 13, 2006 65 PCGS $126.50 </p><p>Auction 401, Lot 8653 Monday, February 13, 2006 65 PCGS $138.00 </p><p>Auction 401, Lot 8654 Monday, February 13, 2006 65 PCGS $431.25 </p><p>Auction 401, Lot 8655 Monday, February 13, 2006 65 PCGS $109.25 </p><p>Auction 401, Lot 8656 Monday, February 13, 2006 65 NGC $195.50 </p><p>Auction 401, Lot 8657 Monday, February 13, 2006 65 PCGS $126.50 </p><p>Auction 401, Lot 8658 Monday, February 13, 2006 65 PCGS $142.60 </p><p>Auction 401, Lot 8659 Monday, February 13, 2006 65 PCGS $115.00 </p><p>Auction 401, Lot 8660 Monday, February 13, 2006 65 NGC $126.50 </p><p>Auction 401, Lot 8661 Monday, February 13, 2006 65 PCGS $126.50 </p><p>Auction 401, Lot 8662 Monday, February 13, 2006 65 PCGS $149.50 </p><p>Auction 26021, Lot 13313 Tuesday, February 7, 2006 65 NGC $115.00 </p><p>Auction 26021, Lot 13314 Tuesday, February 7, 2006 65 PCGS $146.05 </p><p>Auction 26021, Lot 13315 Tuesday, February 7, 2006 65 PCGS $149.50 </p><p>Auction 26021, Lot 13316 Tuesday, February 7, 2006 65 PCGS $149.50 </p><p>Auction 26021, Lot 13317 Tuesday, February 7, 2006 65 PCGS $138.00 </p><p>Auction 66021, Lot 24190 Sunday, February 5, 2006 65 PCGS $161.00 </p><p>Auction 391, Lot 29238 Monday, January 30, 2006 65 NGC $230.00 </p><p>Auction 26014, Lot 13278 Wednesday, January 25, 2006 65 PCGS $139.15 </p><p>Auction 26014, Lot 13280 Wednesday, January 25, 2006 65 NGC $155.25 </p><p>Auction 66014, Lot 24346 Sunday, January 22, 2006 65 NGC $132.25 </p><p>Auction 66014, Lot 24347 Sunday, January 22, 2006 65 ANACS $97.75 </p><p>Auction 26013, Lot 11657 Tuesday, January 17, 2006 65 NGC $115.00 </p><p>Auction 26013, Lot 11658 Tuesday, January 17, 2006 65 ANACS $109.25 </p><p>Auction 26013, Lot 11659 Tuesday, January 17, 2006 65 PCGS $172.50 </p><p>Auction 26013, Lot 11660 Tuesday, January 17, 2006 65 PCGS $149.50 </p><p>Auction 66013, Lot 23393 Sunday, January 15, 2006 65 ANACS $109.25 </p><p>Auction 66013, Lot 23395 Sunday, January 15, 2006 65 PCGS $138.00 </p><p>Auction 26012, Lot 13247 Tuesday, January 10, 2006 64 PCGS $48.00 </p><p>Auction 395, Lot 26654 Monday, January 9, 2006 65 PCGS $172.50 </p><p>Auction 395, Lot 26655 Monday, January 9, 2006 65 PCGS $184.00 </p><p>Auction 395, Lot 26656 Monday, January 9, 2006 65 NGC $103.50 </p><p>Auction 66012, Lot 24223 Sunday, January 8, 2006 65 PCGS $149.50 </p><p>Auction 66012, Lot 24224 Sunday, January 8, 2006 65 NGC $138.00 </p><p> </p><p><b>How about a modern?? Let's look at the 2005 Bison Proof nickel:</b></p><p><br /></p><p>Auction 26042, Lot 11120 Tuesday, April 11, 2006 69 PCGS $31.00 </p><p>Auction 26041, Lot 13076 Tuesday, April 4, 2006 70 NGC $97.75 </p><p>Auction 26024, Lot 11100 Tuesday, February 28, 2006 70 NGC $92.00 </p><p>Auction 26023, Lot 13162 Tuesday, February 21, 2006 70 NGC $149.50 </p><p>Auction 395, Lot 25589 Monday, January 9, 2006 70 PCGS $207.00 </p><p>Auction 389, Lot 7455 Monday, November 7, 2005 70 PCGS $276.00 </p><p><br /></p><p><b>Look...sure there are exceptions here and there (especially toned examples), but if I am going to submit to a service and IF I wish to liquidate my collection, I know that <span style="color: Red">"all things being equal"</span> I will sell PCGS graded coins for MORE than the other services. I didn't make the rules...I am just proving what the market is bearing.</b></p><p><br /></p><p>Where are your facts?? Prices realized (that means REAL money paid) is a pretty good indicator to measure market demand, so again, where are YOUR facts??</p><p><br /></p><p>Or are you just going to offer another opinion so you <i>feel good </i>about yourself?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Midas, post: 129206, member: 2761"]I didn't make the rules...I didn't set the market...I didn't influence the numismatic community over the last 20 years...All I did was research the market place and then offered FACTS and LINKS to support my argument. I own coins from all of the top TPG's, but the question came up to [B]who should you submit to[/B]? Well, if I am going to go through the hassle and expense of coin submissions, I want the service that will not only offer my coin a grade and authentication, but will be respected and [U]demanded[/U] in the numismatic community! Take a look at some coins being sold and better yet, HAVE BEEN SOLD in recent days/months/years: BTW...From Webster's dictionary... [B]Source[/B]: 1.) a point of origin 2.) The place of origin for a stream of water 3.) One that supplies information [B]The source in this case is Heritage's [COLOR="Red"]COMPLETED[/COLOR] auctions and [COLOR="red"]PRICES REALIZED[/COLOR]![/B] [B]How about a 1909 VDB [/B]1c, a common coin no doubt and one that Lincoln collectors will likely see go up when 2009 comes around. This is just for 2006 (Source again is Heritage...you got it?...it's called a [B]source[/B]): May 1, 2006 66 PCGS $218.50 May 1, 2006 66 NGC $184.00 May 1, 2006 66 PCGS $184.00 April 30, 2006 64 ANACS $66.00 April 29, 2006 67 PCGS $1,035.00 April 10, 2006 66 PCGS $195.50 April 10, 2006 66 PCGS $195.50 April 10, 2006 66 PCGS $195.50 April 10, 2006 66 PCGS $195.50 April 10, 2006 66 PCGS $195.50 April 10, 2006 66 PCGS $195.50 April 10, 2006 66 PCGS $184.00 April 7, 2006 67 PCGS $1,265.00 April 2, 2006 65 PCGS $92.00 March 26, 2006 65 PCGS $97.75 March 19, 2006 65 PCGS $92.00 March 12, 2006 65 NGC $72.45 March 7, 2006 65 NGC $74.75 March 6, 2006 66 PCGS $218.50 March 6, 2006 66 PCGS $207.00 March 6, 2006 66 PCGS $207.00 March 6, 2006 66 PCGS $207.00 March 5, 2006 65 PCGS $97.75 March 5, 2006 65 NGC $74.75 March 5, 2006 66 PCGS $184.00 March 4, 2006 67 PCGS $1,150.00 February 28, 2006 65 PCGS $97.75 February 28, 2006 65 NGC $86.25 February 28, 2006 66 PCGS $207.00 February 21, 2006 65 PCGS $115.00 February 21, 2006 65 PCGS $92.00 February 21, 2006 66 PCGS $207.00 February 19, 2006 65 PCGS $92.00 February 19, 2006 65 NGC $80.50 February 19, 2006 67 PCGS $1,150.00 February 14, 2006 65 PCGS $97.75 February 14, 2006 65 NGC $86.25 February 14, 2006 66 NGC $149.50 February 14, 2006 67 PCGS $1,150.00 February 13, 2006 64 PCGS $54.00 February 13, 2006 66 PCGS $276.00 February 12, 2006 66 PCGS $218.50 February 7, 2006 66 PCGS $218.50 February 5, 2006 65 NGC $74.75 January 15, 2006 64 NGC $48.00 January 15, 2006 66 NGC $166.75 January 10, 2006 64 NGC $48.00 January 10, 2006 65 NGC $80.50 January 9, 2006 66 PCGS $184.00 January 8, 2006 64 PCGS $51.00 January 8, 2006 64 NGC $48.00 January 7, 2006 67 PCGS $1,035.00 January 7, 2006 67 PCGS $1,150.00 January 7, 2006 67 PCGS $805.00 January 7, 2006 67 PCGS $1,150.00 January 7, 2006 67 PCGS $1,150.00 How about a [B]1881-S Morgan [/B]that [COLOR="Red"][B]Zane[/B][/COLOR] was looking to submit? How has that coin done in the marketplace in just [B]MS65 grades [/B]alone (since there is a BUNCH of these that were sold since the first of the year?: Auction 26051, Lot 13403 Tuesday, May 2, 2006 65 NGC $149.50 Auction 26051, Lot 13404 Tuesday, May 2, 2006 65 NGC $138.00 Auction 405, Lot 8376 Monday, May 1, 2006 65 PCGS $218.50 Auction 405, Lot 8377 Monday, May 1, 2006 65 NGC $161.00 Auction 405, Lot 8378 Monday, May 1, 2006 65 NGC $195.50 Auction 405, Lot 8379 Monday, May 1, 2006 65 NGC $161.00 Auction 405, Lot 8381 Monday, May 1, 2006 65 NGC $207.00 Auction 405, Lot 8382 Monday, May 1, 2006 65 NGC $299.00 Auction 405, Lot 8383 Monday, May 1, 2006 65 PCGS $276.00 Auction 66044, Lot 23350 Sunday, April 23, 2006 65 ANACS $109.25 Auction 66044, Lot 23351 Sunday, April 23, 2006 65 ANACS $109.25 Auction 66044, Lot 23352 Sunday, April 23, 2006 65 ANACS $97.75 Auction 66044, Lot 23353 Sunday, April 23, 2006 65 NGC $138.00 Auction 26043, Lot 13587 Tuesday, April 18, 2006 65 PCGS $149.50 Auction 403, Lot 8109 Monday, April 10, 2006 65 NGC $172.50 Auction 403, Lot 8110 Monday, April 10, 2006 65 PCGS $126.50 Auction 403, Lot 8111 Monday, April 10, 2006 65 NGC $138.00 Auction 403, Lot 8112 Monday, April 10, 2006 65 PCGS $126.50 Auction 403, Lot 8113 Monday, April 10, 2006 65 NGC $184.00 Auction 403, Lot 8114 Monday, April 10, 2006 65 PCGS $149.50 Auction 403, Lot 8115 Monday, April 10, 2006 65 PCGS $138.00 Auction 403, Lot 8116 Monday, April 10, 2006 65 PCGS $126.50 Auction 26041, Lot 13232 Tuesday, April 4, 2006 65 PCGS $149.50 Auction 26041, Lot 13233 Tuesday, April 4, 2006 65 NGC $138.00 Auction 26041, Lot 13234 Tuesday, April 4, 2006 65 NGC $138.00 Auction 26041, Lot 13235 Tuesday, April 4, 2006 65 NGC $121.90 Auction 26041, Lot 13236 Tuesday, April 4, 2006 65 NGC $138.00 Auction 66041, Lot 24258 Sunday, April 2, 2006 65 NGC $115.00 Auction 413, Lot 7925 Monday, March 6, 2006 65 NGC $126.50 Auction 413, Lot 7926 Monday, March 6, 2006 65 NGC $138.00 Auction 413, Lot 7927 Monday, March 6, 2006 65 NGC $126.50 Auction 413, Lot 7928 Monday, March 6, 2006 65 NGC $126.50 Auction 66024, Lot 23409 Sunday, February 26, 2006 65 ANACS $126.50 Auction 26023, Lot 13443 Tuesday, February 21, 2006 65 PCGS $126.50 Auction 26023, Lot 13444 Tuesday, February 21, 2006 65 PCGS $138.00 Auction 66023, Lot 24434 Sunday, February 19, 2006 65 NGC $115.00 Auction 66023, Lot 24435 Sunday, February 19, 2006 65 ANACS $115.00 Auction 66023, Lot 24436 Sunday, February 19, 2006 65 PCGS $126.50 Auction 401, Lot 8652 Monday, February 13, 2006 65 PCGS $126.50 Auction 401, Lot 8653 Monday, February 13, 2006 65 PCGS $138.00 Auction 401, Lot 8654 Monday, February 13, 2006 65 PCGS $431.25 Auction 401, Lot 8655 Monday, February 13, 2006 65 PCGS $109.25 Auction 401, Lot 8656 Monday, February 13, 2006 65 NGC $195.50 Auction 401, Lot 8657 Monday, February 13, 2006 65 PCGS $126.50 Auction 401, Lot 8658 Monday, February 13, 2006 65 PCGS $142.60 Auction 401, Lot 8659 Monday, February 13, 2006 65 PCGS $115.00 Auction 401, Lot 8660 Monday, February 13, 2006 65 NGC $126.50 Auction 401, Lot 8661 Monday, February 13, 2006 65 PCGS $126.50 Auction 401, Lot 8662 Monday, February 13, 2006 65 PCGS $149.50 Auction 26021, Lot 13313 Tuesday, February 7, 2006 65 NGC $115.00 Auction 26021, Lot 13314 Tuesday, February 7, 2006 65 PCGS $146.05 Auction 26021, Lot 13315 Tuesday, February 7, 2006 65 PCGS $149.50 Auction 26021, Lot 13316 Tuesday, February 7, 2006 65 PCGS $149.50 Auction 26021, Lot 13317 Tuesday, February 7, 2006 65 PCGS $138.00 Auction 66021, Lot 24190 Sunday, February 5, 2006 65 PCGS $161.00 Auction 391, Lot 29238 Monday, January 30, 2006 65 NGC $230.00 Auction 26014, Lot 13278 Wednesday, January 25, 2006 65 PCGS $139.15 Auction 26014, Lot 13280 Wednesday, January 25, 2006 65 NGC $155.25 Auction 66014, Lot 24346 Sunday, January 22, 2006 65 NGC $132.25 Auction 66014, Lot 24347 Sunday, January 22, 2006 65 ANACS $97.75 Auction 26013, Lot 11657 Tuesday, January 17, 2006 65 NGC $115.00 Auction 26013, Lot 11658 Tuesday, January 17, 2006 65 ANACS $109.25 Auction 26013, Lot 11659 Tuesday, January 17, 2006 65 PCGS $172.50 Auction 26013, Lot 11660 Tuesday, January 17, 2006 65 PCGS $149.50 Auction 66013, Lot 23393 Sunday, January 15, 2006 65 ANACS $109.25 Auction 66013, Lot 23395 Sunday, January 15, 2006 65 PCGS $138.00 Auction 26012, Lot 13247 Tuesday, January 10, 2006 64 PCGS $48.00 Auction 395, Lot 26654 Monday, January 9, 2006 65 PCGS $172.50 Auction 395, Lot 26655 Monday, January 9, 2006 65 PCGS $184.00 Auction 395, Lot 26656 Monday, January 9, 2006 65 NGC $103.50 Auction 66012, Lot 24223 Sunday, January 8, 2006 65 PCGS $149.50 Auction 66012, Lot 24224 Sunday, January 8, 2006 65 NGC $138.00 [B]How about a modern?? Let's look at the 2005 Bison Proof nickel:[/B] Auction 26042, Lot 11120 Tuesday, April 11, 2006 69 PCGS $31.00 Auction 26041, Lot 13076 Tuesday, April 4, 2006 70 NGC $97.75 Auction 26024, Lot 11100 Tuesday, February 28, 2006 70 NGC $92.00 Auction 26023, Lot 13162 Tuesday, February 21, 2006 70 NGC $149.50 Auction 395, Lot 25589 Monday, January 9, 2006 70 PCGS $207.00 Auction 389, Lot 7455 Monday, November 7, 2005 70 PCGS $276.00 [B]Look...sure there are exceptions here and there (especially toned examples), but if I am going to submit to a service and IF I wish to liquidate my collection, I know that [COLOR="Red"]"all things being equal"[/COLOR] I will sell PCGS graded coins for MORE than the other services. I didn't make the rules...I am just proving what the market is bearing.[/B] Where are your facts?? Prices realized (that means REAL money paid) is a pretty good indicator to measure market demand, so again, where are YOUR facts?? Or are you just going to offer another opinion so you [I]feel good [/I]about yourself?[/QUOTE]
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