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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2669200, member: 24314"]<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie11" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> Oh Boy...here goes:</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #660066">You would think so but apparently not. Several things come into play here:</span></p><p><span style="color: #660066"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #660066">1. SE are graded by eye.</span></p><p><span style="color: #660066">2. Certain % of SE submissions from large submitters are expected to "make" MS-70 even if the grader needs to stretch. </span></p><p><span style="color: #660066">3. Why would the #1 TPGS wish to cross a coin from the #4 TPGS and prove that while their grading is the same the lesser service is faster and cheaper? Thus, the coins are examined more closely for a cross as they don't wish to put a coin that is actually inferior into their slab. </span> </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #660066">This is basically correct <b>except</b> when it comes to small "mint-made" imperfections.</span> </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #660066">This response comes as a surprise to me! ANACS does not over grade SE any worse than any other TPGS.</span></p><p><br /></p><p>heavycam.monstervam, posted: "You cant just single out Anacs as the only company who has an overgraded MS70 labeled as such. I've seen numerous so-called 70 graded coins in PCGS/NGC holders that werent even close." <span style="color: #660066">I am in 100% agreement. </span>"I dont think there even is such a thing for a business strike." <span style="color: #660066">Actually, I am in 100% disagreement with this statement. The TPGS employees I have discussed this fallacy with agree that modern commemoratives and SE are usually much more prevalent as 70's in Mint State than their proof counterparts.</span> "I could find SOMETHING wrong with any 70 graded coin you put in front of me. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie57" alt=":jawdrop:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie11" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><span style="color: #660066">You are a better man than I <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie30" alt=":bucktooth:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> or the TPGS's <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie30" alt=":bucktooth:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> for sure. Since that grade (70) came about, I have seen (<b>using a stereo microscope</b>) thousands of coins graded 70 w/o any flaws including those made at the mint! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie104" alt=":yawn:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></span></p><p><span style="color: #660066"> </span></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #660066">The only "fact" borne out by the market is that identical perfect coins are worth more in an NGC slab than an ANACS slab. I though that was common knowledge.</span>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2669200, member: 24314"]:rolleyes: Oh Boy...here goes: [COLOR=#660066]You would think so but apparently not. Several things come into play here: 1. SE are graded by eye. 2. Certain % of SE submissions from large submitters are expected to "make" MS-70 even if the grader needs to stretch. 3. Why would the #1 TPGS wish to cross a coin from the #4 TPGS and prove that while their grading is the same the lesser service is faster and cheaper? Thus, the coins are examined more closely for a cross as they don't wish to put a coin that is actually inferior into their slab. [/COLOR] [COLOR=#660066]This is basically correct [B]except[/B] when it comes to small "mint-made" imperfections.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#660066]This response comes as a surprise to me! ANACS does not over grade SE any worse than any other TPGS.[/COLOR] heavycam.monstervam, posted: "You cant just single out Anacs as the only company who has an overgraded MS70 labeled as such. I've seen numerous so-called 70 graded coins in PCGS/NGC holders that werent even close." [COLOR=#660066]I am in 100% agreement. [/COLOR]"I dont think there even is such a thing for a business strike." [COLOR=#660066]Actually, I am in 100% disagreement with this statement. The TPGS employees I have discussed this fallacy with agree that modern commemoratives and SE are usually much more prevalent as 70's in Mint State than their proof counterparts.[/COLOR] "I could find SOMETHING wrong with any 70 graded coin you put in front of me. :jawdrop::hilarious::hilarious::rolleyes: [COLOR=#660066]You are a better man than I :bucktooth: or the TPGS's :bucktooth: for sure. Since that grade (70) came about, I have seen ([B]using a stereo microscope[/B]) thousands of coins graded 70 w/o any flaws including those made at the mint! :yawn: [/COLOR] [COLOR=#660066]The only "fact" borne out by the market is that identical perfect coins are worth more in an NGC slab than an ANACS slab. I though that was common knowledge.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
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