These coins are ones I inherited from my grandfather that he cleaned back in the 70's. They are easier to sell when time comes if they are certified. I sent in a Trade dollar, Seated dollar, 20 cents piece, Seated quarter, etc. People like to question authenticity a lot, so it's easier if they are certified. The "doctoring" that I tried was shown to me by a highly regarded dealer in Morgan's. His name is listed as a contributor in the Red Book. Basically you take a cleaned coin and speed up the natural circulating process. You get a bag of old dirty copper cents and you put the coin in the bag with them and slosh them around for a long time. It simulates regular wear and can remove some hairlines, but will also knock it down a grade or more, depending on how long you do it. I tried it on a polished 1817 large cent and sent to PCGS and it got a clean grade. The dealer said he does it some with coins that are still valuable even if it gets a lower, clean grade.
I thought about it but needed the $99 for other things. I will probably wait to submit when they run a Dollars and Cents special and send in some of my Morgans.
UPDATE: I forgot. Apparently, I did take some pictures of one of the Roosevelt dimes before I submitted it. This is the one coming back AU58. Here you go.
I would agree... I think there's enough wear on the hairline that *might* have pushed it down to AU55, to be honest. Nice coin, but certainly not UNC. And glad your package arrived already TJ. Edit: TJ, was 5 Sept the expected ship date from the time your submission was inputted? What was your "receipt" date?
Yes, 5 Sept was the expected ship (return) date. My coins were received at ANACS on 8/8/16. So we're talking just about a month turn-a-round time.
Thanks for posting this tip on how to re-tone coins the "natural" way. How long did you leave the 1817 large cent in with the dirty copper cents ??
20 day economy? That's not too bad, but a lot longer than I recall. I was pretty sure a couple years ago, their economy was shipping in 8 days or so.
It all depends on when you get the results you want. It's not just putting them in the bag to sit, but rolling it around all day, or even longer. I can't remember how long it took me for this particular coin, but it wasn't more than a day or two total of sloshing it around when I had free time.
What comes to mind is using a mechanical method similar to a rock tumbler, only very slow and gentle. I have some key date polished Sicilian silver coins that I would like to restore. I've got lots of junk Franklins and Walkers that I can experiment with before tackling my rare stuff.
My dealer recommended older, dirty wheat cents, but I dont see why other coins wouldn't work. I guess the dirt helps to take the polish off too.
So here's the results of the toned (recolored), 44, 44D, 46D, 48 & 52) Lincoln's I submitted. I was so focused on the toning, I completely overlooked the corrosion.