ANACS Partners With OSV To Certify Double Mint Sets-1947-58

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by tommyc03, Aug 3, 2016.

  1. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Not really. Sure label errors happen but considering that PCGS and NGC have each graded over 30 million coins their labeling errors are an extremely small percentage and certainly within the average error margins of other industries. As far as grading errors, well there is no right and wrong answer with grading. You can disagree with how they grade and grade differently then they do but it doesn't mean they made an error. Both are very consistent within their own standards even if someone else's standards vary
     
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  3. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Let me be specific as to what I mean. Both Q. David Bowers and I agree on this point - even the top two TPG firms, and I'd suggest the four letter word one more than the three, but only I said that, not QDB (/snicker), there are almost as many artificially toned coins straight graded and naturally toned coins refused for the same, than there are properly handled ones in their respective plastic.

    Granted, they've now been chastised and are now more reluctant on toners generally, but the stuff is out there in the market.
     
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  4. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    It would almost seem prudent for everyone possible to wait for awhile and watch and see how this rolls out and pans out. My phone works fine so I did not run right out and buy a new I-phone 6, no more than I went out and snapped up a 4K T.V. Mine works just fine. Perhaps wait and see what some of these sets start going for in the market place and the responses from those who do have to run with the latest trends/fads and then make decisions...?
     
  5. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Man, I'm feelin ya' on the TV thing. It's crossing lines - eyesight vs. TV resolution. Why would I buy consistently higher res TV's when my ability to see the one I've got with the unaided eye slowly diminishes? I have a 1080
    now. Maybe my next one only needs to be 720. I must admit I do have the latest iPhone, but not a big one. The newest is the SE, in the small format. :D Cheapest one yet, too. My stroke affected thumbs can't reach across a big phone anyway. :nurse:
     
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  6. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    I'm 62 and soon to be 63 and I went through my kids stages of Atari 2600, Nes & Playstation and then I quit those. My 42" 1080 is fine for me. I really don't need to see a pimple on someone's butt or a blackhead on their nose. And I can't even get rid of my VHS at a quarter each in a tag sale. LOL.
     
  7. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    I've got one word for you as a blast from the past - Colecovision. Huh? Huh?
     
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  8. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    LOL. Got one of those as a gift for visiting a time share seminar. Beckett, Ma. and was partly owned by Lorne Greene ( Bonanza ). I didn't buy in but took the free gifts. I also suckered myself into the C.E.D. fad ( Capacitance Electronic Discs ) They used a needle to play the discs, not laser readers. I still have about 300 of these discs and 3 players and most people have never even heard of them. Just as the original post about this new ANACs fad, live and learn, and learn some more. Now, if we could just get todays youth to learn from our mistakes... Oh well, wishful thinking.
     
  9. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Toning is always just a guess and really just looking for a certain look when it comes to colors than a true natural vs artificial. People can't even agree on what is actually artificial. Some people consider it artificial to place coins in environments that encourage toning even though the toning process it's self is entirely natural. About the only thing with toning that everyone agrees on is toning caused by applying things to the surface or gassing something would be artificial.
     
  10. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    FWIW, I have my own ethical standard I employ: 1) accidental is always okay, 2) stuff coin collectors have always done routinely that impart toning that we now do with the intent of inducing toning are also okay [Kraft paper envelopes, high sulfur "penny boards", etc.], 3) but I draw the line for me personally at any attempt to accelerate by a means that nobody ever would normally have done to a coin in the hobby's heyday.

    Before you say anything, yes, I know, that might be impossible to tell. But for me, it had better LOOK like those rules were followed or I AIN'T DOIN' IT or BUYIN' IT!! I'd never even begin to consider buying any wildly colored ASE's even though some of my older ones in Danscos have peripheral edge toning that's almost blackish.
     
  11. Santinidollar

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    Out of curiosity, I went to eBay and found two ANACS graded sets. Asking price for both is about $2,000. Four figure prices are all over the place for quite a number of raw sets.
     
  12. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Having looked at those I really dislike how you have to put in the individual certs that aren't even labeled to see the individual grades on the ANACS website.
     
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