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<p>[QUOTE="+VGO.DVCKS, post: 5413482, member: 110504"]Some time between Christmas and New Years, I landed this on, wait for it, US ebay.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1234616[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1234617[/ATTACH]</p><p>Frankish kingdom of Jerusalem. Denier of Jean de Brienne, King and regent, 1210-1212-1225. Temp. 5th Crusade, 1218-1221.</p><p>Obv. Cross, annulets in two angles. +IOh[ann]ES: REX:</p><p>Rev. Facing portrait, crowned; one annulet and two pellets in crown. +DAM[IA]TA. (Damietta, in the Nile delta, occupied by the 5th Crusade.)</p><p>Malloy 43. Cf. Guy Perry, <u>John of Brienne</u> 109f., citing Metcalf, <u>Coinage of the Crusades</u>. For more context, historical and numismatic, see Metcalf, esp. 80-5; Malloy p. 61; Perry (97-)103-111.</p><p>(...It's Really Fun that the rounded version of the capital letter "h," evoking the modern lower-case one, shows up as early as this. --Specifically in this medium; extant manuscripts are full of examples, back to the preceding century and earlier. But with medieval die engraving, there was frequently a technological lag, vaguely to either side of a century.)</p><p>[USER=56653]@seth77[/USER] did a remarkably thorough, well-documented thread on Jean de Brienne, years before I joined the forum. Replete with several valuable contributions from other members. <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/jean-de-brienne-from-jerusalem-to-damietta-and-finally-constantinople.364168/#post-4690549" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/jean-de-brienne-from-jerusalem-to-damietta-and-finally-constantinople.364168/#post-4690549">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/jean-de-brienne-from-jerusalem-to-damietta-and-finally-constantinople.364168/#post-4690549</a> .</p><p>...Oh, well; forging ahead, for this collection, these are the examples which that one complemented. They're all of the same, commonest type, as in Malloy, with minor variants. (Back to Metcalf, he lists more variants, inviting facile comparison to the dialectic between Poey d'Avant and Duplessy (...and Boudeau, numismatico-historiographically in between the two) for French feudal. ...Except that, methodologically, I still doubt that Malloy had anything on Metcalf.) This one, my second of the three, was via UKebay, from the numismatist Chris Sabine, extensively published, for one, in The <u>Numismatic Chronicle</u>. ...Yes, in that instance, the provenance was, as we say across the pond, <i>about </i>something.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1234717[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1234718[/ATTACH]</p><p>...Before any of which, there was this example, that cost real money:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1234719[/ATTACH]</p><p>...And here is when I'm supposed to ask people to post stuff, ostensibly according to, um, prefabricated criteria. ...Well, more like, Post Whatever is of relevance, according to, thank you, your own criteria. ...With the sole caveat that, the more you said about the latter, the more fun it would be.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="+VGO.DVCKS, post: 5413482, member: 110504"]Some time between Christmas and New Years, I landed this on, wait for it, US ebay. [ATTACH=full]1234616[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1234617[/ATTACH] Frankish kingdom of Jerusalem. Denier of Jean de Brienne, King and regent, 1210-1212-1225. Temp. 5th Crusade, 1218-1221. Obv. Cross, annulets in two angles. +IOh[ann]ES: REX: Rev. Facing portrait, crowned; one annulet and two pellets in crown. +DAM[IA]TA. (Damietta, in the Nile delta, occupied by the 5th Crusade.) Malloy 43. Cf. Guy Perry, [U]John of Brienne[/U] 109f., citing Metcalf, [U]Coinage of the Crusades[/U]. For more context, historical and numismatic, see Metcalf, esp. 80-5; Malloy p. 61; Perry (97-)103-111. (...It's Really Fun that the rounded version of the capital letter "h," evoking the modern lower-case one, shows up as early as this. --Specifically in this medium; extant manuscripts are full of examples, back to the preceding century and earlier. But with medieval die engraving, there was frequently a technological lag, vaguely to either side of a century.) [USER=56653]@seth77[/USER] did a remarkably thorough, well-documented thread on Jean de Brienne, years before I joined the forum. Replete with several valuable contributions from other members. [URL]https://www.cointalk.com/threads/jean-de-brienne-from-jerusalem-to-damietta-and-finally-constantinople.364168/#post-4690549[/URL] . ...Oh, well; forging ahead, for this collection, these are the examples which that one complemented. They're all of the same, commonest type, as in Malloy, with minor variants. (Back to Metcalf, he lists more variants, inviting facile comparison to the dialectic between Poey d'Avant and Duplessy (...and Boudeau, numismatico-historiographically in between the two) for French feudal. ...Except that, methodologically, I still doubt that Malloy had anything on Metcalf.) This one, my second of the three, was via UKebay, from the numismatist Chris Sabine, extensively published, for one, in The [U]Numismatic Chronicle[/U]. ...Yes, in that instance, the provenance was, as we say across the pond, [I]about [/I]something. [ATTACH=full]1234717[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1234718[/ATTACH] ...Before any of which, there was this example, that cost real money: [ATTACH=full]1234719[/ATTACH] ...And here is when I'm supposed to ask people to post stuff, ostensibly according to, um, prefabricated criteria. ...Well, more like, Post Whatever is of relevance, according to, thank you, your own criteria. ...With the sole caveat that, the more you said about the latter, the more fun it would be.[/QUOTE]
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