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<p>[QUOTE="7Jags, post: 8058170, member: 78719"]Hmmm, last first: FM prepared their own designs based on original RM designs. Remember though that on practical dissolution of the FM minting, evidently at least some dies were obtained by the RM and used unmolested complete with FM logo on the 1986 and 1987 Cayman Islands coins - not all of them. I wonder if others went out for other nations and the FM obliterated.</p><p><br /></p><p>Next: Proof(P) and currency (M)matte and (U)prooflike issues from the FM both had the FM mintmark/logo on them. The 1970 year is an example where the FM struck coins before the mintmark/logo on the coin(s).</p><p><br /></p><p>Next: the records that are in Krause and reproduced in Numista and other sources on the internet have many flaws, additions, and omissions. So these can be found. Examples are (M) and (U) reported mintage numbers added on, substituted for each other & some appear to be projected mintages of coins that may never have been minted. Good discovery on this 25c coin - it had escaped my notice as I tend to like the larger dollar and up denominations when it comes to currency.</p><p>Schon (in Welt Munzkatalog) has it listed generally but they tend to do things like they did with this coin and just "seem" to say that uncirculated undesignated currency coins exist for Bahamas 25c 1974-1985, but again NOT clear at all because for the date these coins are priced to coin grade with including VZ, ST, and PP (proof in German) by condition. We have been trained in the USA that proof is NOT a coin grade but a method of manufacture.</p><p><br /></p><p>A further problem is that for the 1974-1985 interval, it is not possible to tell if which type of uncirculated coin is struck for which year, or if they were even struck at all. Sum it up: Schon is NOT helpful in this instance.</p><p> </p><p>Sounds confusing? It is, I will show a couple of pictures:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1396466[/ATTACH]</p><p>This picture shows the grades.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1396467[/ATTACH]</p><p>This picture the years.</p><p><br /></p><p>So what am I saying? Well, as the OP has shown as an example there are sadly instances where we simply do not know when all coins were struck, if struck, or how many. I pointed up in another post the exact opposite of the 1989 $2 coin is listed with value in (U) uncirculated but is not known. Please let me know if you have one for sale![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="7Jags, post: 8058170, member: 78719"]Hmmm, last first: FM prepared their own designs based on original RM designs. Remember though that on practical dissolution of the FM minting, evidently at least some dies were obtained by the RM and used unmolested complete with FM logo on the 1986 and 1987 Cayman Islands coins - not all of them. I wonder if others went out for other nations and the FM obliterated. Next: Proof(P) and currency (M)matte and (U)prooflike issues from the FM both had the FM mintmark/logo on them. The 1970 year is an example where the FM struck coins before the mintmark/logo on the coin(s). Next: the records that are in Krause and reproduced in Numista and other sources on the internet have many flaws, additions, and omissions. So these can be found. Examples are (M) and (U) reported mintage numbers added on, substituted for each other & some appear to be projected mintages of coins that may never have been minted. Good discovery on this 25c coin - it had escaped my notice as I tend to like the larger dollar and up denominations when it comes to currency. Schon (in Welt Munzkatalog) has it listed generally but they tend to do things like they did with this coin and just "seem" to say that uncirculated undesignated currency coins exist for Bahamas 25c 1974-1985, but again NOT clear at all because for the date these coins are priced to coin grade with including VZ, ST, and PP (proof in German) by condition. We have been trained in the USA that proof is NOT a coin grade but a method of manufacture. A further problem is that for the 1974-1985 interval, it is not possible to tell if which type of uncirculated coin is struck for which year, or if they were even struck at all. Sum it up: Schon is NOT helpful in this instance. Sounds confusing? It is, I will show a couple of pictures: [ATTACH=full]1396466[/ATTACH] This picture shows the grades. [ATTACH=full]1396467[/ATTACH] This picture the years. So what am I saying? Well, as the OP has shown as an example there are sadly instances where we simply do not know when all coins were struck, if struck, or how many. I pointed up in another post the exact opposite of the 1989 $2 coin is listed with value in (U) uncirculated but is not known. Please let me know if you have one for sale![/QUOTE]
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