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<p>[QUOTE="Curtis, post: 8274486, member: 26430"]I much appreciate the discussion of Probus' busts, mints, emissions, etc. Though he's a favorite of mine within RIC, Probus is just a small, non-systematic sub-collection for me. (I have a grabbed a dozen or so for their attractive busts, and/or for fitting my other sub-collections, "captives & enemies" or "from interesting collections/publications.")</p><p><br /></p><p>So I don't usually work through a full monograph or specialized articles. But this level of material is helpful for getting a bit of a grip on his vast and varied coinage.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I love that captive type from the aureus die. That one seems a bit rare to hope for one, but I've got a few other "captives" types.</p><p><br /></p><p>The obverse on my VICTORIA GERM below isn't as impressive as some, but as a collector of Roman "captives" coinage, the reverse is fabulous (possibly the last most artistic of the two-captives-and-trophies type, begun by Julius Caesar over 325 years before, as the later versions were never this good again).</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1460789[/ATTACH]</p><p>The Claudius II version of the two-captives-and-trophy reverse (VICTORIA GOTHIC) is noticeably inferior (they're supposed to be Gothic captives, but one wonders if that isn't Parthian/Sassanian headwear, copied from Septimius or Caracalla's coins):</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1460802[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>I don't exactly know whether the captive on the next type (ADVENTVS PROBI AVG// XXIB; RIC 632?) is meant to specifically represent a German or other tribal enemy:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1460816[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>I've seen others from the same emission, I believe, at Serdica, in which there may be enough detail of headwear and clothing to indicate an Eastern (Parthian, Sassanid) captive (e.g., <a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=128216" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=128216" rel="nofollow">Rauch 71 [28 Apr 2003], 912</a>, RIC 634).</p><p><b>Not my coin</b>:[ATTACH]1460817[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Another detail that I love about the coinage of Probus, evident in the examples above from both [USER=31620]@maridvnvm[/USER] and [USER=115816]@barnaba6[/USER] , is how much the single collector, Philippe Gysen, was able to contribute! I made a point of tracking down and buying at least one of his coins (so far), since I found the story of his collection so impressive and fascinating.</p><p><br /></p><p>(I posted it above, but this one is Gysen's own photo, I believe, also used on Probvs.net: [ATTACH]1460824[/ATTACH])</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Paging through the ERIC II section on Probus (or any other reference) it's astonishing how many types are only known or first published from the Gysen collection. Amazing to think he accomplished that in such a short life.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Curtis, post: 8274486, member: 26430"]I much appreciate the discussion of Probus' busts, mints, emissions, etc. Though he's a favorite of mine within RIC, Probus is just a small, non-systematic sub-collection for me. (I have a grabbed a dozen or so for their attractive busts, and/or for fitting my other sub-collections, "captives & enemies" or "from interesting collections/publications.") So I don't usually work through a full monograph or specialized articles. But this level of material is helpful for getting a bit of a grip on his vast and varied coinage. I love that captive type from the aureus die. That one seems a bit rare to hope for one, but I've got a few other "captives" types. The obverse on my VICTORIA GERM below isn't as impressive as some, but as a collector of Roman "captives" coinage, the reverse is fabulous (possibly the last most artistic of the two-captives-and-trophies type, begun by Julius Caesar over 325 years before, as the later versions were never this good again). [ATTACH=full]1460789[/ATTACH] The Claudius II version of the two-captives-and-trophy reverse (VICTORIA GOTHIC) is noticeably inferior (they're supposed to be Gothic captives, but one wonders if that isn't Parthian/Sassanian headwear, copied from Septimius or Caracalla's coins): [ATTACH=full]1460802[/ATTACH] I don't exactly know whether the captive on the next type (ADVENTVS PROBI AVG// XXIB; RIC 632?) is meant to specifically represent a German or other tribal enemy: [ATTACH=full]1460816[/ATTACH] I've seen others from the same emission, I believe, at Serdica, in which there may be enough detail of headwear and clothing to indicate an Eastern (Parthian, Sassanid) captive (e.g., [URL='https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=128216']Rauch 71 [28 Apr 2003], 912[/URL], RIC 634). [B]Not my coin[/B]:[ATTACH]1460817[/ATTACH] Another detail that I love about the coinage of Probus, evident in the examples above from both [USER=31620]@maridvnvm[/USER] and [USER=115816]@barnaba6[/USER] , is how much the single collector, Philippe Gysen, was able to contribute! I made a point of tracking down and buying at least one of his coins (so far), since I found the story of his collection so impressive and fascinating. (I posted it above, but this one is Gysen's own photo, I believe, also used on Probvs.net: [ATTACH]1460824[/ATTACH]) Paging through the ERIC II section on Probus (or any other reference) it's astonishing how many types are only known or first published from the Gysen collection. Amazing to think he accomplished that in such a short life.[/QUOTE]
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