An opinion and some free advice

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Barfly, Dec 6, 2013.

  1. vlaha

    vlaha Respect. The. Hat.

    I know that's not exactly what he said, that's why I placed the word almost in there.

    Here's what he said:

     
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  3. superc

    superc Active Member

    Sell the key date coins and be happy.

    Use rarity numbers to set your price. Anticipate some coins will take a long time to move.

    Dealers can't buy anything at retail. If they pay half retail they hurt. 1/3 retail is much preferred. This is true for any business from hardware to cars.
     
    Last edited: Dec 19, 2013
  4. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I guess that depends on what you call "retail". I'll give a hint though, retail is not what you find listed in the price guides. But I will grant ya this much, there are a whole lot of folks who "think" that's what retail is.

    What retail really is, is the price range you'll find in realized auction prices, and no that does not include ebay. I'm talking about the realized prices in real coin auctions.

    And a s a general rule of thumb a good dealer will offer you anywhere from 10-20% than what you find for a comparable coin in those. You need to make note though, comparable coin does not mean one of the same grade. It means a comparable coin.
     
  5. superc

    superc Active Member

    I think it is a real mistake to ignore what somethings sell for on Ebay when trying to figure out a value. True that Ebay defies averaging as one will go for a high price, then the next one gets sniped and goes for a ridiculously low price but, nevertheless, those are real world prices which someone just traded 'one of those' coins for. :)

    Really, I understand why some hate Ebay. Simply put, it allows selling (or buying) with minimum overhead or hassle/costs. A risk of being took exists, but some nice buys exist. It also needs to be noted, when looking at 'population summary' on PCGS and clicking on 'shop,' where does PCGS dump us? Not into a Heritage auction or a member's coin shop, but right into Ebay. :)
     
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  6. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    But Doug, the REAL auctions you are talking about are for REAL coins, not low grade dreck or problem coins. For a collection that consists of low grade-problem coins, E-Bay might be the only source for prices realized at auction.
     
  7. superc

    superc Active Member

    Since 'real' slabbed coins are being sold on Ebay, and Ebay can be just as pricey as some other places if you are unwary or 'must' have that particular one I can't see Ebay not being considered part of the real world.
     
  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Why ? Because -

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  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I get your point Paul, but I wouldn't even trust it for that !
     
  10. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Doug:

    That's two cartoons in one day!

    You are going wild.

    :)
     
  11. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    He's becoming a wild and crazy guy Frank..........:)
     
  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Me - crazy ??? Nahhhhhhhhhhhh

    'Course I have been known to take on a 900 lb Alaska Brown Bear face to face with nothing but my flyrod - and win the argument ;)
     
  13. AWORDCREATED

    AWORDCREATED Hardly Noticeable

    How did he taste?
     
  14. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I hate bear, taste awful IMO.
     
  15. bdunnse

    bdunnse Who dat?

    Almost thought you said beer!!!
     
  16. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Welllllllll, feel the same way about most beer too :D
     
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  17. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Note to self: Don't approach doug with beer or you may get swatted with a fly rod. :)

    I don't use prices from ebay - I use heritage to get a baseline for what some dealers are selling items for. Even if they are selling on heritage. Does not mean I don't look at ebay. And I like to compare quality of coin doing the best I can with images. Not all coins are overpriced on ebay, but quite a few of what I am looking for is.
     
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  18. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    PS - who caught more fish - you or the bear?
     
  19. Barfly

    Barfly Active Member

    Since I said I was thinking about posting the inventory later in the thread and it seems that opinions are at an impasse without knowing the full contents of the bag, I've listed them below. I was really expecting to let this thread die, but it seems to have drawn some enlightened commentary since I last saw it. So here you go. Opine away. I will not be feeding the trolls.

    edited - forum rules

    This is not for sale at this time. I'm tired of dealing with it for the time being. I don't trust dealing with online auctions, much like the moderators here, apparently. But, I am interested in hearing the opinions of those with the experience as to how they would deal with trying to get the most dollar value out of what I've got here.

    You say those were not for sale, but I don't know what else to call it when you list an entire inventory along with prices. Sorry, but our rules just do not allow that.
     
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  20. vlaha

    vlaha Respect. The. Hat.

    Personally I want to see the 1886 nickel.
     
  21. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Well, good luck getting 20 cents apiece for common date, G4 wheat cents. In bulk, they usually go for 6-10 cents each.

    Some of your prices for the semi-key/key IHCs are also a bit high. For instance, the 1871's...I am looking at sold listings on ebay. I see VF-XF examples going for the price that you are asking for a VG, and G-VG examples sold for well under $100.

    I also don't know how accurate your grading is. For all I know, you could be overgrading or undergrading your coins by 5 points.

    Overall I think your asking prices for a lot of the coins seems a bit high for the grade, especially if you planned on selling to a dealer, who, let's remember, needs to make a profit on their purchases in order to run a successful business.
     
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