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<p>[QUOTE="Jack D. Young, post: 5345503, member: 93371"]An astute Member of a counterfeit group I administer posted a couple of images of a recent Bay listing and asked what the "tell" was marking it as a counterfeit.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1226358[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1226359[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1226360[/ATTACH] </p><p>The answer he was looking for is the defect on the "R" of LIBERTY and later stated he thought it went back to the 1970's.</p><p><br /></p><p>I sent a PM to another friend and well known counterfeit expert with the images and he responded as follows: " That one is famous...Repeatedly published by ANA and even in the text book I believe. The deficit in the back of the R in liberty is the diagnostic. One to one transfer dies".</p><p><br /></p><p>As a Member of ANA I went to their website and started searching for information and downloaded a copy of the "Counterfeit Detection I" and this example shows starting page 93.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1226361[/ATTACH] </p><p>[ATTACH=full]1226362[/ATTACH] </p><p>I made 2 separate pages of the images of the two examples documented by the ANA very similar to the attribution pages I make now for the latest fakes we have been documenting, and a comparison image of these and the eBay example's main attribution point.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1226363[/ATTACH] </p><p>[ATTACH=full]1226364[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1226365[/ATTACH] </p><p>The images show one of the edge as well, and I asked the seller of the current example for an edge view but have not had a response...</p><p><br /></p><p>The current listing ended as a no sale, but we are on the look-out for a relist!</p><p><br /></p><p>This is another of the opportunities to research and learn that I personally love- how I spend my spare time as available. And finding prior research on examples showing up currently is always a treat. I would highly recommend a review of both volumes of the ANA's Counterfeit Detection series!</p><p><br /></p><p>Best,</p><p><br /></p><p>Jack[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Jack D. Young, post: 5345503, member: 93371"]An astute Member of a counterfeit group I administer posted a couple of images of a recent Bay listing and asked what the "tell" was marking it as a counterfeit. [ATTACH=full]1226358[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1226359[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1226360[/ATTACH] The answer he was looking for is the defect on the "R" of LIBERTY and later stated he thought it went back to the 1970's. I sent a PM to another friend and well known counterfeit expert with the images and he responded as follows: " That one is famous...Repeatedly published by ANA and even in the text book I believe. The deficit in the back of the R in liberty is the diagnostic. One to one transfer dies". As a Member of ANA I went to their website and started searching for information and downloaded a copy of the "Counterfeit Detection I" and this example shows starting page 93. [ATTACH=full]1226361[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1226362[/ATTACH] I made 2 separate pages of the images of the two examples documented by the ANA very similar to the attribution pages I make now for the latest fakes we have been documenting, and a comparison image of these and the eBay example's main attribution point. [ATTACH=full]1226363[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1226364[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1226365[/ATTACH] The images show one of the edge as well, and I asked the seller of the current example for an edge view but have not had a response... The current listing ended as a no sale, but we are on the look-out for a relist! This is another of the opportunities to research and learn that I personally love- how I spend my spare time as available. And finding prior research on examples showing up currently is always a treat. I would highly recommend a review of both volumes of the ANA's Counterfeit Detection series! Best, Jack[/QUOTE]
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