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<p>[QUOTE="Claudius_Gothicus, post: 7779855, member: 116315"]Thanks! Those are some very nice coins, and this reverse type was one of the ones I was thinking about when reflecting upon "twin issues"; I wonder if anybody has other coins of this kind to post?</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Very nice coin! The details on both sides are excellent. The portrait style makes it easy to identify as a product of the Rome mint; as for the Viminacium version, I must admit I do not know of its existance. If you're basing yourself off RIC V, then I believe you might be thinking about RIC V 224, a rare type that RIC attributes to Viminacium but Göbl reassigned to the first emissions of Antioch on stylistic grounds, as I said in my thread. It's a rare coin, so I can only show this example from Vcoins:</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://images.vcoins.com/product_image/136/J/6/Jj75dxR6g2cD4Pbmxs3EHar8RZ5eY9.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Great purchase! This type is quite rare with "P F" in the obverse legend, it's far more commonly encountered with just "P", like on the example I've just picked up from Naumann.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Thanks for your answer [USER=84744]@Severus Alexander[/USER], your first coin is a beauty! I must admit I have no clue as to why that's the only Viminacium emission to use a legend in the dative case, and I don't think anybody has ever written about it.</p><p><br /></p><p>I'm also very happy to hear that you've received that important Valerian! Huvelin mentions an example in <i>"<a href="https://www.persee.fr/doc/numi_0484-8942_1969_num_6_11_986" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.persee.fr/doc/numi_0484-8942_1969_num_6_11_986" rel="nofollow">Trésor d'antoniniani en Syrie. La <i>Victoria Parthica</i> de Valérien. Les émissions d'Aurélien à Antioche et Tripoli"</a></i>, and Göbl lists it as 1604A; if I ever pick up his book, I'll let you know how many examples he lists.</p><p><br /></p><p>Finally, great Rome mint Gallienus too! The reverse, referencing three victories, is used at the very beginning of his sole reign and it's also connected to my thread, as it was discussed by Alföldi in the same article I used as a source; he believed that the three victories were those against Ingenuus, Regalianus and the Macriani, and while I'm not sure if this theory still holds amongst modern numismatists, I quite like it.</p><p><br /></p><p>As for my sets, I'm not really going after anything in particular from Viminacium except for Salonina's coins, though I will pick up all the nice and affordable examples from this mint I come across, like these two I recently bought from Naumann:</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://media.biddr.com/media/img/auction_lots/1838/1999581_1623925122.l.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="https://media.biddr.com/media/img/auction_lots/1838/1999673_1623925170.l.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>(Notice the unusual flan on the first coin! Defects like this one are quite common on these antoniniani, I'm guessing the quality control wasn't that good there.)</p><p><br /></p><p>However, I must mention that I've just discovered the existance of another one of these Victory types from Viminacium's last issue:</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://images3.cgb.fr/images/rome/brm_173313.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>It copies my VICT PART's reverse design, but uses the generic legend VICT AVGG instead; it's quite rare, so if I find one for sale I'll certainly pick it up.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Claudius_Gothicus, post: 7779855, member: 116315"]Thanks! Those are some very nice coins, and this reverse type was one of the ones I was thinking about when reflecting upon "twin issues"; I wonder if anybody has other coins of this kind to post? Very nice coin! The details on both sides are excellent. The portrait style makes it easy to identify as a product of the Rome mint; as for the Viminacium version, I must admit I do not know of its existance. If you're basing yourself off RIC V, then I believe you might be thinking about RIC V 224, a rare type that RIC attributes to Viminacium but Göbl reassigned to the first emissions of Antioch on stylistic grounds, as I said in my thread. It's a rare coin, so I can only show this example from Vcoins: [IMG]https://images.vcoins.com/product_image/136/J/6/Jj75dxR6g2cD4Pbmxs3EHar8RZ5eY9.jpg[/IMG] Great purchase! This type is quite rare with "P F" in the obverse legend, it's far more commonly encountered with just "P", like on the example I've just picked up from Naumann. Thanks for your answer [USER=84744]@Severus Alexander[/USER], your first coin is a beauty! I must admit I have no clue as to why that's the only Viminacium emission to use a legend in the dative case, and I don't think anybody has ever written about it. I'm also very happy to hear that you've received that important Valerian! Huvelin mentions an example in [I]"[URL='https://www.persee.fr/doc/numi_0484-8942_1969_num_6_11_986']Trésor d'antoniniani en Syrie. La [I]Victoria Parthica[/I] de Valérien. Les émissions d'Aurélien à Antioche et Tripoli"[/URL][/I], and Göbl lists it as 1604A; if I ever pick up his book, I'll let you know how many examples he lists. Finally, great Rome mint Gallienus too! The reverse, referencing three victories, is used at the very beginning of his sole reign and it's also connected to my thread, as it was discussed by Alföldi in the same article I used as a source; he believed that the three victories were those against Ingenuus, Regalianus and the Macriani, and while I'm not sure if this theory still holds amongst modern numismatists, I quite like it. As for my sets, I'm not really going after anything in particular from Viminacium except for Salonina's coins, though I will pick up all the nice and affordable examples from this mint I come across, like these two I recently bought from Naumann: [IMG]https://media.biddr.com/media/img/auction_lots/1838/1999581_1623925122.l.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]https://media.biddr.com/media/img/auction_lots/1838/1999673_1623925170.l.jpg[/IMG] (Notice the unusual flan on the first coin! Defects like this one are quite common on these antoniniani, I'm guessing the quality control wasn't that good there.) However, I must mention that I've just discovered the existance of another one of these Victory types from Viminacium's last issue: [IMG]https://images3.cgb.fr/images/rome/brm_173313.jpg[/IMG] It copies my VICT PART's reverse design, but uses the generic legend VICT AVGG instead; it's quite rare, so if I find one for sale I'll certainly pick it up.[/QUOTE]
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