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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;cladking, post: 3175025, member: 68&quot;]Hundreds of billions of moderns survive.&nbsp; Yes, they are very common.</p><p><br /></p><p>But billions of classics survive too. </p><p><br /></p><p>These facts are simply irrelevant to collectors attempting to build sets.&nbsp; Obviously if a collector chooses he can complete sets of common coins in low grades&nbsp; and there&#039;s nothing wrong with this.</p><p><br /></p><p>The biggest difference to the collector of modern coins is that MS-60 is pretty low grade for &quot;non&quot;-variety moderns.&nbsp; Such sets can be assembled extremely cheaply because the coins are &quot;common&quot;.&nbsp; There&#039;s nothing wrong with an MS-60 set or an AU55 set of clad quarters.&nbsp; Indeed, one of my proudest possessions is a set of XF+ and better coins I&#039;ve found in circulation since 1996.&nbsp; It&#039;s virually &quot;worthless&quot; but it would be almost impossible to duplicate because the coins are &quot;rare&quot; now.&nbsp; You simply aren&#039;t going to find a well made &#039;92-D in AU58 any longer.&nbsp; It&#039;s worth&nbsp; quarter on the market and is priceless to me. </p><p><br /></p><p>Most modern collectors can easily afford an MS-60 set but then MS-60 clads tend to be quite ugly.&nbsp; Moderns weren&#039;t made to the standards of classics.&nbsp; Dies were overused, badly hubbed, poorly aligned, and struck with too low force.&nbsp; Minting quarters in 1965 was about extending die life not making good looking coins. </p><p><br /></p><p>To get nice looking coins it requires active searching or you have to buy graded coins.&nbsp;&nbsp; Not even all MS-64&#039;s are attractive.&nbsp; If you like nice solid strikes from good dies then not even all MS-65&#039;s are attractive.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>Calling an attractive 1982-P common in any grade above VF is missing the mark.&nbsp;&nbsp; Indeed, now days the old coins in circulation tend to be pretty beaten up by counting machines so an attractive &#039;82-P in any grade at all will prove a little tough.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>It certainly isn&#039;t hard to find a nice attractive VG 1907 indian cent though.&nbsp; So why don&#039;t people warn indian cent collectors that the coins are risky business and are prepared for a fall since more and more will be graded</p><p><br /></p><p>I understand why people are concerned about the market viability of moderns and why so many people hate them.&nbsp;&nbsp; I&#039;d just prefer they keep their statements&nbsp;&nbsp; accurate while damning them.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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