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Message:: [QUOTE="Detecto92, post: 1798959, member: 75105"]The reason I do not participate in the various "guess the grade" threads, is because I personally do not grade beyond Unc. To me, UNC is UNC. I've seen various coins resubmitted and gained or lost 2 whole points. I've also read about people buying "OGH" holders, and sometimes have success receiving a higher grade. Even beyond that, there exists a firm that "ensures the grade", also known as "CAC". So if you buy a coin in the OGH holder as MS63, resub, and it comes back MS64, and gets a "CAC" beanie, what exactly have you accomplished? Zero, absolutely nothing. I guarantee that if you took the same coin, and submitted it 100 times to any of the "big 3" TPG's, there will be a spread of 2 points. Getting back to "why would anyone pay for your service"?.... If someone told me they have a firm that "ensures" the grade of a coin, I would tell them they are nuts and I doubt they would make a dollar. This is because grading is subjective, and is simply an opinion. However, CAC seems to do quite well. Also...if people think that these "OGH" holders will resub for higher grades...than that goes to show you that they did NOT do the job right the 1st time. They call this "gradeflation". There is no comparison in grading, its subjected from the ANA Grading Standards, which have been around since the late 70s. To me, grading beyond AU is silly, because a uncirculated coin's grade is so subjective, that it's a complete waste of time to even try to maintain a "standard". Either that, or only have 3 grades in the MS range, not flipping 10! But...maybe 20 years from now, there will exist a company that ensures CAC did a good job.[/QUOTE]

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