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<p>[QUOTE="Kurisu, post: 5515881, member: 117063"]Yes... Here is the coin that 'cent' me into a panic... See what I did there? <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie59" alt=":joyful:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p>It's a 1943 MS68, not a cheap coin!</p><p><br /></p><p>The left image is just cellphone pic I took. The pinkish one is the original NGC photo type that [USER=78244]@TypeCoin971793[/USER] had mentioned.</p><p><br /></p><p><b>My photo is just the slightest different angle and lit from the side mostly. Because this penny is so lustrous the slightest light change makes it appear completely differently. But... You can see some obvious matching on that stressed and ultrasonically melted plastic from my quick photos, especially at the top.</b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b>I'm not going to re-shoot the photos from months ago (sorry, couldn't find my reverse side image at the moment) but I'll explain...</b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b>After checking my slab at the same angles EVERYTHING matches, but it's unsettling because that hazy white plastic straight up looks like rubber cement when viewed from the side of the slab...This completely freaked me out! But some of my much newer NGC slabs have similar things.</b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b>I am able perfectly match the tiny 'teeth' around the perimeter of the plastic when it's at the exact same angle. I am able to perfectly match the tiniest marks on the obverse of the coin with the NGC image. You can see the reverse of this penny is also quite distinctive. The tiny nick above the right side of the N in ONE and it matches exactly. The tiny mirrored area above and to the right of ONE also matches exactly.</b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b>Even the label is in the exact same position and the yellow mark behind 1943 on the label is faded a bit, but it's there too, even imperfections in the dot matrix type printing matches. I went out of my mind matching up my slab in-hand with the original NGC photo...all four sides of my slab match the NGC photo perfectly when viewed exactly straight on. The slightest angle changes almost everything.</b></p><p><br /></p><p>And then I freaked out more when I was seeing this sort of rubber cement look on a variety of slabs both recent and older from a variety of trusted sources through out the years! And that set me off on comparing lots of the original NGC photos to my slabs. I was even checking random ebay listings to see if I could see this on brand new slabs...I sure could! It was not stress I really need at the moment lol.</p><p><br /></p><p>Then I got extra frustrated when NGC wasn't being very responsive when I asked about it privately...they simply made sure the NGC images were posted in my registry online with them but decided not to respond to let me know... I had genuinely forgotten that I could load the original NGC image if one was available for the coin! ...I don't spend much time in the registry stuff at all, but I do register my coins since I'm a paid member and print out my lists for insurance.</p><p><br /></p><p><i>Anyone else now notice this too on their slabs!?</i> Tell me I'm not crazy <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie27" alt=":bored:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p>The Covid19 brain fogs are all too real...I truly wish it upon no one!!!!!</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1240229[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Kurisu, post: 5515881, member: 117063"]Yes... Here is the coin that 'cent' me into a panic... See what I did there? :joyful: It's a 1943 MS68, not a cheap coin! The left image is just cellphone pic I took. The pinkish one is the original NGC photo type that [USER=78244]@TypeCoin971793[/USER] had mentioned. [B]My photo is just the slightest different angle and lit from the side mostly. Because this penny is so lustrous the slightest light change makes it appear completely differently. But... You can see some obvious matching on that stressed and ultrasonically melted plastic from my quick photos, especially at the top. I'm not going to re-shoot the photos from months ago (sorry, couldn't find my reverse side image at the moment) but I'll explain... After checking my slab at the same angles EVERYTHING matches, but it's unsettling because that hazy white plastic straight up looks like rubber cement when viewed from the side of the slab...This completely freaked me out! But some of my much newer NGC slabs have similar things. I am able perfectly match the tiny 'teeth' around the perimeter of the plastic when it's at the exact same angle. I am able to perfectly match the tiniest marks on the obverse of the coin with the NGC image. You can see the reverse of this penny is also quite distinctive. The tiny nick above the right side of the N in ONE and it matches exactly. The tiny mirrored area above and to the right of ONE also matches exactly. Even the label is in the exact same position and the yellow mark behind 1943 on the label is faded a bit, but it's there too, even imperfections in the dot matrix type printing matches. I went out of my mind matching up my slab in-hand with the original NGC photo...all four sides of my slab match the NGC photo perfectly when viewed exactly straight on. The slightest angle changes almost everything.[/B] And then I freaked out more when I was seeing this sort of rubber cement look on a variety of slabs both recent and older from a variety of trusted sources through out the years! And that set me off on comparing lots of the original NGC photos to my slabs. I was even checking random ebay listings to see if I could see this on brand new slabs...I sure could! It was not stress I really need at the moment lol. Then I got extra frustrated when NGC wasn't being very responsive when I asked about it privately...they simply made sure the NGC images were posted in my registry online with them but decided not to respond to let me know... I had genuinely forgotten that I could load the original NGC image if one was available for the coin! ...I don't spend much time in the registry stuff at all, but I do register my coins since I'm a paid member and print out my lists for insurance. [I]Anyone else now notice this too on their slabs!?[/I] Tell me I'm not crazy :bored: The Covid19 brain fogs are all too real...I truly wish it upon no one!!!!! [ATTACH=full]1240229[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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