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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;TypeCoin971793, post: 4175792, member: 78244&quot;]Assumptions to fit your narrative.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.pcgs.com/news/counterfeit-pcgs-holders" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.pcgs.com/news/counterfeit-pcgs-holders" rel="nofollow">https://www.pcgs.com/news/counterfeit-pcgs-holders</a></p><p><br /></p><p>People more intimately tied to the problem than I have claimed they showed up in 2007, but the earliest articles I have found dated from 2008. That’s why both dates are included.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>We’ve been over this ad nauseam. Not worth my time to explain it to you again.</p><p><br /></p><p>I will ask again, how many counterfeit Morgan Dollars are out there <i>exactly</i>? It is an impossible question to answer, and you know it. Same thing applies to counterfeit slabs, and you know it. Yet you keep asking.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I criticized NGC where criticism was due, and I praised PCGS where praise was due.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Because it is irrelevant. The problem spanned multiple generations of holders, and counterfeits exist of multiple generations of holders. And I did explicitly state that it is valuable to know what genuine holders look like, so I did not ignore the point that just studying the holder type will reveal many fakes.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I did.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Again, irrelevant</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I explicitly did.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Did you even read the post, or did you see the title and the last sentence and concluded you got everything you needed to know about the topic?</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I wanted to show a range of quality of counterfeit slabs, and I only had photographs of PCGS coins that spanned the whole spectra. That was negligent on my part. I have posted several counterfeit NGC slabs in the ensuing discussion.</p><p><br /></p><p>In addition, fake PCGS slabs are more common than NGC slabs.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I asked around a few months ago, but I never got a straight answer. I am fairly certain that it was after the counterfeit slabs started coming out. Again, explicity mentioned.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Yes, and covered by the statement “if it cannot be photo verified, then seriously consider passing on the coin.” This statement was not about PCGS in particular.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>They didn’t.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Because it wasn’t recent. It was several years ago.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Which you have barely added to and tried to seriously detract from.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Again, explicitly mentioned</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>It was also implicitly mentioned.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>So when are you going to define your standard for what an “epidemic” is? We are all anxiously waiting.... <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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