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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;geekpryde, post: 4156840, member: 36248&quot;]Awesome Post, well written, details, helpful.&nbsp; &nbsp; I love seem original content like this on CT.</p><p><br /></p><p>My two very small critiques.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>In the very old days, eBay kept the pictures and detail of listing up for a very long time (years), possibly forever.&nbsp; &nbsp; Well, that changed quite a few years ago, and the images actually go away fairly quickly now.&nbsp; &nbsp; So trying to use an eBay auction to check photos against is mostly useless, unless the legitimate listing took place within the last 90 days.</p><p><br /></p><p>I think listing other large auction sites that DO keep the listing photos essentially forever, that are also well respected, trusted companies that probably rarely if ever have a fake coin slip past them.&nbsp;&nbsp; I think it would be helpful if you add these to you great article, so readers could have another legitimate source to check their coins against decent photos, as part of a multi-pronged approach to research the past history of a coin they are buying.</p><p><br /></p><p>For example, <a href="http://www.stacksbowers.com/Pages/Home.aspx" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.stacksbowers.com/Pages/Home.aspx" rel="nofollow">Stack&#039;s Bowers</a>.&nbsp; &nbsp; This company unfortunately does not make searching for TPG cert numbers in their archives easy, however, if its a PCGS coin and it was ever auctioned by SB, then is is very likely listed on P<a href="https://www.pcgs.com/cert" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.pcgs.com/cert" rel="nofollow">CGS certification verification site</a>, and it will link you directly to the old listing with pictures, including in most cases, slab pictures.&nbsp;&nbsp; You could also manually search the coin by typing in the date, mintmark, grade, etc.&nbsp; and pulling up the several examples and matching against your coin.&nbsp;&nbsp; I would say if the coin is of sufficient value, this small annoyance is worth the time.</p><p><br /></p><p>Also, I understand your point in the TPG trying to minimize the data mining abilities of the fakers, but in my mind, NGC has it wrong and PCGS has it correct.&nbsp; NGC new system is annoying and frustrating, it hampers legitimate buyers more than it slows down the data miners.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; PCGS system is faster, easier, and provides better overall information, and great photos when available to check against.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; NGC photos are laughably bad, unless you pay them.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Keep in mind, I am no NGC hater, I am a member who submits to them.&nbsp; &nbsp; It&#039;s just the reality, <a href="https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/" rel="nofollow">NGC certificate verification</a> system does more harm than good, as people are less likely to use it when needing to lookup a whole slew of certs quickly, like I do when hunting auctions and placing bids.&nbsp; &nbsp; I honestly think NGC didn&#039;t even put it in place to prevent the Fakers at all, it was other sorts of companies they were trying to slow down.&nbsp; <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>These are minor points, and your overall post if excellent and extremely helpful.&nbsp; &nbsp; Many members will benefit from this info, I only hope they actually take the time to research purchases and gain skills to try and minimize the risk of buying fake coins, fake slabs, or worse, BOTH.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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