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<p>[QUOTE="Jack D. Young, post: 4156432, member: 93371"]An unintended consequence of this problem and being progressive...</p><p><br /></p><p>The TPG decided to include the Bay in the auction history shown for genuine certified coins- we ran across a seller dealing in bad Chinese "coins" and slabs (how ironic...). Took a while to get this to stop (after multiple sales of these he was thrown off the site) BUT in researching him and his offerings I found his past sales showed up through the on-line certs of the numbers chosen for the fake labels. Counterfeiters did their homework to find appropriate certs and coins to knock off.</p><p><br /></p><p>The 1st example is this "1923". On-line cert shows an image and the lowball Bay auction prices and history that allowed the previous sales be found and tied to the seller. In this case there was no "Price Guide Value" for reference.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1072820[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1072821[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1072822[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>The 2nd example ("1908") had a price guide for reference and you can see how these can pollute the data!</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1072823[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1072824[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1072825[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Jack D. Young, post: 4156432, member: 93371"]An unintended consequence of this problem and being progressive... The TPG decided to include the Bay in the auction history shown for genuine certified coins- we ran across a seller dealing in bad Chinese "coins" and slabs (how ironic...). Took a while to get this to stop (after multiple sales of these he was thrown off the site) BUT in researching him and his offerings I found his past sales showed up through the on-line certs of the numbers chosen for the fake labels. Counterfeiters did their homework to find appropriate certs and coins to knock off. The 1st example is this "1923". On-line cert shows an image and the lowball Bay auction prices and history that allowed the previous sales be found and tied to the seller. In this case there was no "Price Guide Value" for reference. [ATTACH=full]1072820[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1072821[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1072822[/ATTACH] The 2nd example ("1908") had a price guide for reference and you can see how these can pollute the data! [ATTACH=full]1072823[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1072824[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1072825[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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