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<p>[QUOTE="Midas, post: 116593, member: 2761"]I just attended the Palm Beach show and NGC coins were NOT selling for higher prices for the same coin in the same grade compared to PCGS. My best buy...a 1909 VDB 1c graded by NGC as MS66RD for $100. Definitely cracking it out and sending it to PCGS. If it goes at the same grade (which I hope), I can dump it for at least $200, so after submissions and all...I will net about $80. Remember, in 2009...Lincolns will be super hot!</p><p><br /></p><p>Speaking of your dear Franklins (as you keep bringing them as your <u>lone</u> example time and time again), I went to Heritage's <u>realized</u> auctions and found some. How about a 1950 FBL in 65 and 66 grades from PCGS and NGC. They have great pictures and all...check them out! </p><p><br /></p><p>Auction 412, Lot 1607 Saturday, March 4, 2006 66 PCGS $575.00 </p><p>Auction 412, Lot 1608 Saturday, March 4, 2006 66 PCGS $1,380.00 </p><p>Auction 412, Lot 1609 Saturday, March 4, 2006 66 PCGS $1,380.00 </p><p>Auction 394, Lot 4179 Saturday, January 7, 2006 66 NGC $546.25 </p><p>Auction 394, Lot 4180 Saturday, January 7, 2006 66 PCGS $805.00 </p><p>Auction 388, Lot 2946 Saturday, November 5, 2005 66 PCGS $747.50 </p><p>Auction 384, Lot 3578 Saturday, September 24, 2005 66 PCGS $460.00 </p><p>Auction 376, Lot 6532 Friday, June 3, 2005 66 PCGS $632.50 </p><p>Auction 372, Lot 7853 Saturday, May 7, 2005 66 PCGS $1,035.00 </p><p><br /></p><p>Auction 66022, Lot 23241 Sunday, February 12, 2006 65 PCGS $149.50 </p><p>Auction 26013, Lot 11546 Tuesday, January 17, 2006 65 PCGS $195.50 </p><p>Auction 26012, Lot 13193 Tuesday, January 10, 2006 65 PCGS $143.75 </p><p>Auction 399, Lot 7629 Monday, December 19, 2005 65 PCGS $184.00 </p><p>Auction 65113, Lot 23462 Sunday, November 20, 2005 65 NGC $143.75 </p><p>Auction 65105, Lot 24251 Sunday, October 30, 2005 65 PCGS $149.50 </p><p>Auction 65104, Lot 23270 Sunday, October 23, 2005 65 NGC $126.50 </p><p>Auction 25102, Lot 11343 Tuesday, October 11, 2005 65 PCGS $172.50 </p><p>Auction 25101, Lot 13525 Tuesday, October 4, 2005 65 PCGS $149.50 </p><p>Auction 25071, Lot 11567 Tuesday, July 5, 2005 65 PCGS $149.50 </p><p>Auction 65071, Lot 23428 Sunday, July 3, 2005 65 NGC $148.35 </p><p>Auction 25064, Lot 13329 Tuesday, June 28, 2005 65 PCGS $184.00 </p><p>Auction 65062, Lot 24815 Sunday, June 12, 2005 65 PCGS $138.00 </p><p>Auction 65042, Lot 23312 Sunday, April 10, 2005 65 PCGS $126.50 </p><p>Auction 65041, Lot 24437 Sunday, April 3, 2005 65 PCGS $155.25 </p><p>Auction 25035, Lot 11398 Tuesday, March 29, 2005 65 PCGS $140.30 </p><p>Auction 65033, Lot 24167 Sunday, March 20, 2005 65 PCGS $195.50 </p><p><br /></p><p><b>How about a 1955 CAM Proof Franklin in 67 and 68 grades?:</b></p><p><br /></p><p>Auction 389, Lot 8166 Monday, November 7, 2005 68 NGC $276.00 </p><p>Auction 385, Lot 8859 Monday, September 26, 2005 68 NGC $299.00 </p><p>Auction 385, Lot 8860 Monday, September 26, 2005 68 NGC $253.00 </p><p>Auction 65053, Lot 24114 Sunday, May 15, 2005 68 NGC $304.75 </p><p>Auction 369, Lot 697 Monday, March 28, 2005 68 PCGS $460.00 </p><p>Auction 367, Lot 1575 Monday, February 28, 2005 68 NGC $287.50 </p><p>Auction 361, Lot 2340 Monday, January 17, 2005 68 NGC $276.00</p><p>Auction 24094, Lot 12373 Tuesday, September 28, 2004 68 NGC $270.25 </p><p>Auction 353, Lot 1214 Monday, August 23, 2004 68 NGC $195.50</p><p>Auction 321, Lot 1497 Monday, July 26, 2004 68 PCGS $506.00 </p><p>Auction 349, Lot 8574 Saturday, June 5, 2004 68 PCGS $720.00</p><p>Auction 346, Lot 7920 Saturday, May 8, 2004 68 PCGS $747.50 </p><p><br /></p><p>Auction 66021, Lot 24166 Sunday, February 5, 2006 67 NGC $161.00 </p><p>Auction 399, Lot 7653 Monday, December 19, 2005 67 PCGS $195.50 </p><p>Auction 25073, Lot 11798 Tuesday, July 19, 2005 67 PCGS $172.50 </p><p>Auction 25062, Lot 13776 Tuesday, June 14, 2005 67 PCGS $161.00 </p><p>Auction 25054, Lot 11368 Tuesday, May 24, 2005 67 PCGS $149.50 </p><p>Auction 25012, Lot 25934 Tuesday, January 11, 2005 67 NGC $172.50 </p><p>Auction 278, Lot 1418 Monday, December 13, 2004 67 PCGS $184.00 </p><p>Auction 64114, Lot 24555 Saturday, November 27, 2004 67 PCGS $195.50 </p><p>Auction 359, Lot 1415 Monday, November 8, 2004 67 PCGS $166.75 </p><p>Auction 24094, Lot 12372 Tuesday, September 28, 2004 67 NGC $195.50 </p><p>Auction 353, Lot 1213 Monday, August 23, 2004 67 PCGS $178.25 </p><p>Auction 352, Lot 4149 Saturday, August 21, 2004 67 PCGS $201.25 </p><p>Auction 347, Lot 929 Monday, May 10, 2004 67 NGC $178.25 </p><p><br /></p><p><b>How about the last year of your beloved Franklins in a 68 DCAM grade!?!:</b></p><p><br /></p><p>Auction 401, Lot 8481 Monday, February 13, 2006 68 NGC $374.90 </p><p>Auction 389, Lot 8176 Monday, November 7, 2005 68 NGC $276.00 </p><p>Auction 385, Lot 8874 Monday, September 26, 2005 68 NGC $373.75 </p><p>Auction 385, Lot 8875 Monday, September 26, 2005 68 PCGS $460.00 </p><p>Auction 25083, Lot 11454 Tuesday, August 16, 2005 68 PCGS $474.95 </p><p>Auction 383, Lot 968 Monday, August 1, 2005 68 PCGS $431.25 </p><p>Auction 25052, Lot 11285 Tuesday, May 10, 2005 68 PCGS $299.00 </p><p>Action 25022, Lot 14041 Tuesday, February 8, 2005 68 NGC $253.00 </p><p>Auction 361, Lot 2357 Monday, January 17, 2005 68 PCGS $402.50 </p><p>Auction 361, Lot 2358 Monday, January 17, 2005 68 NGC $218.50 </p><p>Auction 360, Lot 8065 Saturday, January 15, 2005 68 PCGS $373.75 </p><p>Auction 278, Lot 1430 Monday, December 13, 2004 68 PCGS $299.00 </p><p>Auction 356, Lot 1357 Monday, September 13, 2004 68 PCGS $603.75 </p><p>Auction 352, Lot 4158 Saturday, August 21, 2004 68 PCGS $345.00 </p><p>Auction 350, Lot 567 Monday, June 7, 2004 68 PCGS $322.00 </p><p>Auction 347, Lot 935 Monday, May 10, 2004 68 NGC $235.75 </p><p>Auction 24023, Lot 11554 Tuesday, February 17, 2004 68 PCGS $281.75 </p><p>Auction 343, Lot 872 Monday, February 2, 2004 68 PCGS $207.00 </p><p>Auction 336, Lot 7092 Saturday, January 10, 2004 68 NGC $189.75 </p><p>Auction 335, Lot 1316 Monday, November 17, 2003 68 PCGS $258.75 </p><p>Auction 331, Lot 1171 Monday, September 22, 2003 68 PCGS $235.75 </p><p>Auction 330, Lot 7400 Saturday, September 20, 2003 68 PCGS $241.50 </p><p>Auction 327, Lot 2126 Wednesday, August 6, 2003 68 NGC $184.00 </p><p><br /></p><p>You can call it a "20 year old fad", I call it REALITY. I am sure you can find an exception here or there...but I supported my argument with FACTS. Of course, my intention is not to convince you, but let other members research, look, and examine the existing data for themselves. Me? I like to support my opinions with research. It makes it easier for all readiing these posts.</p><p><br /></p><p>At least I got you to agree that NGC is liberal in 70 grades compared to PCGS. I don't collect Franklins so I will have to take your word...but apparently, the rest of the Franklin buyers haven't got the memo.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Midas, post: 116593, member: 2761"]I just attended the Palm Beach show and NGC coins were NOT selling for higher prices for the same coin in the same grade compared to PCGS. My best buy...a 1909 VDB 1c graded by NGC as MS66RD for $100. Definitely cracking it out and sending it to PCGS. If it goes at the same grade (which I hope), I can dump it for at least $200, so after submissions and all...I will net about $80. Remember, in 2009...Lincolns will be super hot! Speaking of your dear Franklins (as you keep bringing them as your [U]lone[/U] example time and time again), I went to Heritage's [U]realized[/U] auctions and found some. How about a 1950 FBL in 65 and 66 grades from PCGS and NGC. They have great pictures and all...check them out! Auction 412, Lot 1607 Saturday, March 4, 2006 66 PCGS $575.00 Auction 412, Lot 1608 Saturday, March 4, 2006 66 PCGS $1,380.00 Auction 412, Lot 1609 Saturday, March 4, 2006 66 PCGS $1,380.00 Auction 394, Lot 4179 Saturday, January 7, 2006 66 NGC $546.25 Auction 394, Lot 4180 Saturday, January 7, 2006 66 PCGS $805.00 Auction 388, Lot 2946 Saturday, November 5, 2005 66 PCGS $747.50 Auction 384, Lot 3578 Saturday, September 24, 2005 66 PCGS $460.00 Auction 376, Lot 6532 Friday, June 3, 2005 66 PCGS $632.50 Auction 372, Lot 7853 Saturday, May 7, 2005 66 PCGS $1,035.00 Auction 66022, Lot 23241 Sunday, February 12, 2006 65 PCGS $149.50 Auction 26013, Lot 11546 Tuesday, January 17, 2006 65 PCGS $195.50 Auction 26012, Lot 13193 Tuesday, January 10, 2006 65 PCGS $143.75 Auction 399, Lot 7629 Monday, December 19, 2005 65 PCGS $184.00 Auction 65113, Lot 23462 Sunday, November 20, 2005 65 NGC $143.75 Auction 65105, Lot 24251 Sunday, October 30, 2005 65 PCGS $149.50 Auction 65104, Lot 23270 Sunday, October 23, 2005 65 NGC $126.50 Auction 25102, Lot 11343 Tuesday, October 11, 2005 65 PCGS $172.50 Auction 25101, Lot 13525 Tuesday, October 4, 2005 65 PCGS $149.50 Auction 25071, Lot 11567 Tuesday, July 5, 2005 65 PCGS $149.50 Auction 65071, Lot 23428 Sunday, July 3, 2005 65 NGC $148.35 Auction 25064, Lot 13329 Tuesday, June 28, 2005 65 PCGS $184.00 Auction 65062, Lot 24815 Sunday, June 12, 2005 65 PCGS $138.00 Auction 65042, Lot 23312 Sunday, April 10, 2005 65 PCGS $126.50 Auction 65041, Lot 24437 Sunday, April 3, 2005 65 PCGS $155.25 Auction 25035, Lot 11398 Tuesday, March 29, 2005 65 PCGS $140.30 Auction 65033, Lot 24167 Sunday, March 20, 2005 65 PCGS $195.50 [B]How about a 1955 CAM Proof Franklin in 67 and 68 grades?:[/B] Auction 389, Lot 8166 Monday, November 7, 2005 68 NGC $276.00 Auction 385, Lot 8859 Monday, September 26, 2005 68 NGC $299.00 Auction 385, Lot 8860 Monday, September 26, 2005 68 NGC $253.00 Auction 65053, Lot 24114 Sunday, May 15, 2005 68 NGC $304.75 Auction 369, Lot 697 Monday, March 28, 2005 68 PCGS $460.00 Auction 367, Lot 1575 Monday, February 28, 2005 68 NGC $287.50 Auction 361, Lot 2340 Monday, January 17, 2005 68 NGC $276.00 Auction 24094, Lot 12373 Tuesday, September 28, 2004 68 NGC $270.25 Auction 353, Lot 1214 Monday, August 23, 2004 68 NGC $195.50 Auction 321, Lot 1497 Monday, July 26, 2004 68 PCGS $506.00 Auction 349, Lot 8574 Saturday, June 5, 2004 68 PCGS $720.00 Auction 346, Lot 7920 Saturday, May 8, 2004 68 PCGS $747.50 Auction 66021, Lot 24166 Sunday, February 5, 2006 67 NGC $161.00 Auction 399, Lot 7653 Monday, December 19, 2005 67 PCGS $195.50 Auction 25073, Lot 11798 Tuesday, July 19, 2005 67 PCGS $172.50 Auction 25062, Lot 13776 Tuesday, June 14, 2005 67 PCGS $161.00 Auction 25054, Lot 11368 Tuesday, May 24, 2005 67 PCGS $149.50 Auction 25012, Lot 25934 Tuesday, January 11, 2005 67 NGC $172.50 Auction 278, Lot 1418 Monday, December 13, 2004 67 PCGS $184.00 Auction 64114, Lot 24555 Saturday, November 27, 2004 67 PCGS $195.50 Auction 359, Lot 1415 Monday, November 8, 2004 67 PCGS $166.75 Auction 24094, Lot 12372 Tuesday, September 28, 2004 67 NGC $195.50 Auction 353, Lot 1213 Monday, August 23, 2004 67 PCGS $178.25 Auction 352, Lot 4149 Saturday, August 21, 2004 67 PCGS $201.25 Auction 347, Lot 929 Monday, May 10, 2004 67 NGC $178.25 [B]How about the last year of your beloved Franklins in a 68 DCAM grade!?!:[/B] Auction 401, Lot 8481 Monday, February 13, 2006 68 NGC $374.90 Auction 389, Lot 8176 Monday, November 7, 2005 68 NGC $276.00 Auction 385, Lot 8874 Monday, September 26, 2005 68 NGC $373.75 Auction 385, Lot 8875 Monday, September 26, 2005 68 PCGS $460.00 Auction 25083, Lot 11454 Tuesday, August 16, 2005 68 PCGS $474.95 Auction 383, Lot 968 Monday, August 1, 2005 68 PCGS $431.25 Auction 25052, Lot 11285 Tuesday, May 10, 2005 68 PCGS $299.00 Action 25022, Lot 14041 Tuesday, February 8, 2005 68 NGC $253.00 Auction 361, Lot 2357 Monday, January 17, 2005 68 PCGS $402.50 Auction 361, Lot 2358 Monday, January 17, 2005 68 NGC $218.50 Auction 360, Lot 8065 Saturday, January 15, 2005 68 PCGS $373.75 Auction 278, Lot 1430 Monday, December 13, 2004 68 PCGS $299.00 Auction 356, Lot 1357 Monday, September 13, 2004 68 PCGS $603.75 Auction 352, Lot 4158 Saturday, August 21, 2004 68 PCGS $345.00 Auction 350, Lot 567 Monday, June 7, 2004 68 PCGS $322.00 Auction 347, Lot 935 Monday, May 10, 2004 68 NGC $235.75 Auction 24023, Lot 11554 Tuesday, February 17, 2004 68 PCGS $281.75 Auction 343, Lot 872 Monday, February 2, 2004 68 PCGS $207.00 Auction 336, Lot 7092 Saturday, January 10, 2004 68 NGC $189.75 Auction 335, Lot 1316 Monday, November 17, 2003 68 PCGS $258.75 Auction 331, Lot 1171 Monday, September 22, 2003 68 PCGS $235.75 Auction 330, Lot 7400 Saturday, September 20, 2003 68 PCGS $241.50 Auction 327, Lot 2126 Wednesday, August 6, 2003 68 NGC $184.00 You can call it a "20 year old fad", I call it REALITY. I am sure you can find an exception here or there...but I supported my argument with FACTS. Of course, my intention is not to convince you, but let other members research, look, and examine the existing data for themselves. Me? I like to support my opinions with research. It makes it easier for all readiing these posts. At least I got you to agree that NGC is liberal in 70 grades compared to PCGS. I don't collect Franklins so I will have to take your word...but apparently, the rest of the Franklin buyers haven't got the memo.[/QUOTE]
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