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<p>[QUOTE="Curtis, post: 8257719, member: 26430"]Very cool! I love the coinage of Kyme, and Aeolis more generally.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here's a bronze that's of a common type generally, but I've been unable to find another example (or mention anywhere) of this magistrate. Anyone recognize Zenimotos (?CENOTIMOΣ?):</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1456055[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><blockquote><p><b>Greek (Hellenistic). Aeolis, Kyme AE Unit </b>(18mm, 3.7g, 12h). Ca. 350-250 BCE.</p><p><b>Obv</b>: Forepart of Horse, magistrate name below. KY above left. (C/K/Ξ/?)ENOTIMOΣ (?)</p><p><b>Rev:</b> Oenochoe (or Skyphos, a one-handled vase) with handle right. Monogram to left.</p><p><b>Provenance:</b> Ex-Holding History Coins (Nathan Hochrein; DePere, WI) #H1230; Ex-Agora Auctions group lot (Auction 35, Group Lots 448-456).</p><p><b>Numis. Notes:</b> Very rare variant, likely not published: Magistrate not found in any known references for this or any other coin of Kyme (cf. Unal (2009), “…Excavations at Kyme, 1951-1954”). No examples found in published auction archives of the coinage of Kyme.</p><p>There was a “ΞENOTIMOΣ” Magistrate reported for Sikyon on coinage of the period 251 – 146 BC (Asolati & Crisafulli, “Il gruzzolo di Bengasi (Libia) 1939…” <i>Revue Numismatique</i> 2014, p. 353-427).</p></blockquote><p><br /></p><p>And the flashier AR Tetradrachm:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1456056[/ATTACH]</p><blockquote><p><b>Greek (Hellenistic). Aeolis, Kyme AR Tetradrachm </b>(37mm x 32mm, 16.30g, 1h). Struck ca. 165 - 145 BCE.</p><p><b>Obv: </b>Head of Amazon right, wearing tainia.</p><p><b>Rev:</b> KYMAIΩN / OΛYMΠIOΣ. Horse w/in wreath, left foreleg raised; oenochoe below.</p><p><b>Ref:</b> BMC 80-81; Oakley (ANSMN 27, 1982) obv. 53 (incorreclty noted as 51 by CNG, rev die not in Oakley); SNG Ashmolean -; SNG von Aulock -; SNG Copenhagen -; BMC 80-1; Boston MFA 1651; Pozzi 2302.</p><p><b>Prov:</b> Ex-<a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3302445" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3302445" rel="nofollow">CNG EA 322 (12 March 2014), 238</a>; <a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4003407" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4003407" rel="nofollow">Agora Auctions Sale 21 (25 November 2014), Lot 108</a>; Ex-Unknown dealer tag, <a href="https://i.imgur.com/AWAtqvo.jpg" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://i.imgur.com/AWAtqvo.jpg" rel="nofollow">partly visible here</a> ("DNR" | 12-12-1993 (Sale 616, 359?), price 895).</p><p><br /></p><p><font size="4"><b>Additional Notes</b>: Very few rev. die matches, but many obv. die matches on acsearch (many mislabeled as Oakley 51, or 49, 50): Pegasi 23 (23 Nov 2010), Lot 145 [corr., Oakley 53 not 54; similarly weak/worn obv., same rev./earlier die state]; Kunker 136 (10 March 2008), Lot 630 [both dies], and 170 (13 Oct 2008), 1413; likely also Kuenker 326 (7 Oct 2019), 822, but in different rev. die states with interesting variations, suggesting some re-engraving, repairs, or other technological backdrop; same obv die as CNA XVIII (3 December 1991), 149.</font></p><p><br /></p></blockquote><p>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Curtis, post: 8257719, member: 26430"]Very cool! I love the coinage of Kyme, and Aeolis more generally. Here's a bronze that's of a common type generally, but I've been unable to find another example (or mention anywhere) of this magistrate. Anyone recognize Zenimotos (?CENOTIMOΣ?): [ATTACH=full]1456055[/ATTACH] [INDENT][B]Greek (Hellenistic). Aeolis, Kyme AE Unit [/B](18mm, 3.7g, 12h). Ca. 350-250 BCE. [B]Obv[/B]: Forepart of Horse, magistrate name below. KY above left. (C/K/Ξ/?)ENOTIMOΣ (?) [B]Rev:[/B] Oenochoe (or Skyphos, a one-handled vase) with handle right. Monogram to left. [B]Provenance:[/B] Ex-Holding History Coins (Nathan Hochrein; DePere, WI) #H1230; Ex-Agora Auctions group lot (Auction 35, Group Lots 448-456). [B]Numis. Notes:[/B] Very rare variant, likely not published: Magistrate not found in any known references for this or any other coin of Kyme (cf. Unal (2009), “…Excavations at Kyme, 1951-1954”). No examples found in published auction archives of the coinage of Kyme. There was a “ΞENOTIMOΣ” Magistrate reported for Sikyon on coinage of the period 251 – 146 BC (Asolati & Crisafulli, “Il gruzzolo di Bengasi (Libia) 1939…” [I]Revue Numismatique[/I] 2014, p. 353-427).[/INDENT] And the flashier AR Tetradrachm: [ATTACH=full]1456056[/ATTACH] [INDENT][B]Greek (Hellenistic). Aeolis, Kyme AR Tetradrachm [/B](37mm x 32mm, 16.30g, 1h). Struck ca. 165 - 145 BCE. [B]Obv: [/B]Head of Amazon right, wearing tainia. [B]Rev:[/B] KYMAIΩN / OΛYMΠIOΣ. Horse w/in wreath, left foreleg raised; oenochoe below. [B]Ref:[/B] BMC 80-81; Oakley (ANSMN 27, 1982) obv. 53 (incorreclty noted as 51 by CNG, rev die not in Oakley); SNG Ashmolean -; SNG von Aulock -; SNG Copenhagen -; BMC 80-1; Boston MFA 1651; Pozzi 2302. [B]Prov:[/B] Ex-[URL='https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3302445']CNG EA 322 (12 March 2014), 238[/URL]; [URL='https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4003407']Agora Auctions Sale 21 (25 November 2014), Lot 108[/URL]; Ex-Unknown dealer tag, [URL='https://i.imgur.com/AWAtqvo.jpg']partly visible here[/URL] ("DNR" | 12-12-1993 (Sale 616, 359?), price 895). [SIZE=4][B]Additional Notes[/B]: Very few rev. die matches, but many obv. die matches on acsearch (many mislabeled as Oakley 51, or 49, 50): Pegasi 23 (23 Nov 2010), Lot 145 [corr., Oakley 53 not 54; similarly weak/worn obv., same rev./earlier die state]; Kunker 136 (10 March 2008), Lot 630 [both dies], and 170 (13 Oct 2008), 1413; likely also Kuenker 326 (7 Oct 2019), 822, but in different rev. die states with interesting variations, suggesting some re-engraving, repairs, or other technological backdrop; same obv die as CNA XVIII (3 December 1991), 149.[/SIZE] [/INDENT][/QUOTE]
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