Am I still Morgandude? Sold my 1893s

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  1. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    For years here, I have been a hardcore Morgan Dollar collector. For over a decade, I’ve posted toned Morgans, High grade Morgans, Prooflike Morgans, less than gorgeous Morgans, etc. in addition, I have given advice, and buying suggestion, running commentary on Morgans (sometimes appreciated, sometimes otherwise, lol).

    At any rate, as of recent, I have broadened my collection to include Liberty Nickel Proofs, Buffalo Nickels, Jefferson Nickels, etc. Also, it has been my pleasure to branch out into World Silver coins. So, my interests have diverged, after years of being doctrinaire Morgan.

    To make a long story short, I finally made the decision to sell my 1893s. I had it up for auction in 2018, but changed my mind at the last minute. Finally a private collector, and friend in South Florida made me an offer I could not refuse. Since we are both fully COVID vaccinated, he came to my house, and picked it up yesterday, with a check that did not bounce (lol).

    I am glad I made the move. It has been time to branch out. I still have plenty of Morgans, but will not be buying any more, as my interests have changed, after 50+ years of Morgan collecting.

    Okay, here she is, and is with her new owner. It is a PCGS AU 50:

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  3. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    We know where your heart lies . . . even though your current interests have changed, you'll always be Morgandude.
     
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  4. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    So glad you have finally seen the light! :)
     
  5. David Betts

    David Betts Elle Mae Clampett cruising with Dad

    This thread should cover basic concepts of grading the Morgan Dollar, from grade Poor 1 to MS69. I will be using the knowledge I have, photos from Heritage, and the grading standards of the ANA to point out what the coins graded and why they graded the way they did. This thread will stick to one grading company, PCGS, to maintain consistency in grading within one company.

    In this thread I will try to remain with one date, I will try to get 1893-S for the lower grades, as that is a coin that is available in lower grades. For higher grades, you will start to see a bigger variety of dates.

    AHere are the photos of the coin;nd once again all photos are courtesy of Heritage (www.ha.com)
    Without further adieu, let the grading begin.



    PO-1 - With a Poor 1, at most times, the value of the Morgan is melt value. (Depends on mintage/supply/demand) The date of the coin, and you being able to tell the coin is a Morgan Dollar, and possibly the mint mark can be identified.

    Here is an example of a PO-1 coin, graded by PCGS.

    1886-O PCGS PO1


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    As you can see not a lot of the details of the coin are visible, but the type of coin, date, and mint mark are.




    FR-2 - With a Fair 2, the coin is mostly worn. Some of the details that weren't able to be seen in a PO1 coin will be visible in a FR-2 coin.

    Here is an example of a FR-2 coin, graded by PCGS.

    1879-CC PCGS FR-2

    Here are the photos of the coin;

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    As you can see the coin is still worn, but some details can be seen better in this coin. Some letters in Liberty are beginning to be legible, and some stars are worn, but can be seen. Parts of the curls in the hair are beginning to come defined as well. Also in contrast to the PO-1 Coin this coin has some detail in the cap as well.




    AG-3 - With an About Good 3, the rims will still be worn but more lettering will be legible than the first two grades. The obverse should have an outlined head, with the details still being worn away, the date, just like the first two coins, should be seen and legible. For the reverse, the entire design is partially worn away, like that of the other two coins, with better details.

    Here is an example of an AG-3 coin, graded by PCGS.

    1893-S PCGS AG-3

    Here are the photos of the coin;

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    Some separation can be seen in the curls of the hair, the cap has more detail and Liberty is nearly complete, and also the rim and the rest of the coin are separating themselves more, but still no detail on the rim.




    G-4 - With a Good 4, you will begin to see the peripheral lettering to be complete. The Obverse should have a full rim, and have the date, letters and design clearly outlined. The reverse should have the rim full as well, and design elements must be visible.

    Here is an example of a G-4 coin, graded by PCGS.

    1893-S PCGS G-4

    Here are photos of the coin;

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    You are beginning to see the details of the wheat and cotton leaves, the cap and hair curls are getting more defined. The eagle is getting more feathers defined, and the lettering is bolder and clearer.




    G-6 - With a Good 6, you will have a slight increase in the amount of details, the peripheral lettering continuing to be full, and the rim being complete.

    Here is a a G-6 coin, graded by PCGS.

    1893-S PCGS G-6
     
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  6. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Please do not hijack my thread. Please edit your response, as another thread.
     
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  7. David Betts

    David Betts Elle Mae Clampett cruising with Dad

    I posted that because about a year you posted and the best I've seen here before you went in the weeds. Glad your back and hi jacking nothing!
     
  8. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    ...yes you are hijacking. Not a bad subject, but belongs in a new thread.
     
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  9. John Burgess

    John Burgess Well-Known Member

    You're still gonna be Morgandude11. Why? Because coin talk don't let people change their names.
    What else is there really? you can only do something for so long before you know most everything there is to know and accomplished what you wanted to accomplish. No fault in moving on from that point to a new area of interest as long as you are enjoying yourself is all that matters.
     
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  10. David Betts

    David Betts Elle Mae Clampett cruising with Dad

    Sorry back in the weeds. Thought I was offering accolades to the Morgan work he did. I not post again to this thread sorry
     
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  11. Robert Ransom

    Robert Ransom Well-Known Member

    WTH,dude!!! Start your own thread!!!
     
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  12. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Florida girls have to love walking there sharks.

    Yes your still the morgan dude save up and buy an 1893 s off center:):)that would be great continue on 20210226_185157.jpg 20210226_190310.jpg
     
  13. Robert Ransom

    Robert Ransom Well-Known Member

    Don't stop posting about Morgans.
     
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  14. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening


    Not a chance that I stop posting about Morgans. Thanks. ;)
     
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  15. David Betts

    David Betts Elle Mae Clampett cruising with Dad

    Sorry went back into edit any mention of your Morgan grading article that's #1 in book but to no avail accept my apologizes. I'll not post again!
    Sorry not apologizing it was Tommy Eagle's best of Morgan's article I was posting! Glad your back
     
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  16. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    No offense meant. I appreciate that you liked some of my work on Morgans. I would be happy to work with you on a separate thread on grading, if you would like. You clearly appreciate Morgans. I just wanted this thread to be more personal. I did miss a year on this board, as my wife had several Cardiac procedures at the Mayo Clinic in Jacksonville, FL. It was a tough year, but that was why I was “in the weeds”, so to speak.
     
  17. David Betts

    David Betts Elle Mae Clampett cruising with Dad

    God Bless you and family It is lent! We're in Sarasota
     
  18. MIGuy

    MIGuy Supporter! Supporter

    What's a Morgan? [ees joke!] I'm thinking of cracking out a couple of these and seeing if they improve on grade but I doubt I'll ever see an 1893 S in my collection. 1885os.jpg
     
  19. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky Supporter

    1893-S is that like $32,000-35,000 in PCGS AU 50 grade ? Wow!:jawdrop: You can buy a lot of very nice coins with that money.:greedy::greedy::greedy: Come to the dark side (world coins) we have variety.;)
    You will always be Morgandude11.:) After 50 years...different coin interests are bound to happen. It sure is comforting to know that I can come to you with Morgan dollar questions because you have so many years of experience with Morgans. Sure I have my topical themed collections, but once my toned date run of Canadian 50 cents and 25 cents caribou quarters collections are complete I will want very specific world coins. I have been putting off buying these coins because of their very high prices (I will be saving up now to buy certain coins). I am liking coins from the 1800's. Old Islamic gold coins and some ancient coins will be next.:shifty::shifty::shifty::cool::cat::cat::cat:
     
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  20. Robert Ransom

    Robert Ransom Well-Known Member

    You should seriously think about buying an 1885-O MS63 for your collection. ;):hilarious::hilarious:
     
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  21. bradgator2

    bradgator2 Well-Known Member

    Nice 93s. That is currently my only empty slot. I’ll fill it one day... but it wont be anywhere near that one lol
     
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