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<p>[QUOTE="frech001, post: 2149302, member: 20616"]Wow, This thread sure spurred interest, and that is why I chimed in and look forward to checking this site. Another forum I like is currently sadly too quiet.</p><p><br /></p><p>I received a copper colored 1964 bronze colored nickel from an elderly friend who had saved it in a sock for 40 years. I weighed it and examined it closely and thought I had an off metal coin. Then I remembered my high school chemistry class when we plated a coin with copper. So I examined the coin very carefully under a microscope and saw a tiny electrical contact spot which was still silver. It was not visible even under 10 power, but clear at 200 power. I weighed it on a lab scale and it weighed the same as a regular 1964 nickel.</p><p><br /></p><p>Despite my personal experience with plated coins and my knowledge of coins and metals they were made from, I took the time to investigate possible explanations to help with this post. First, a copper penny would not exhibit magnetic properties even if it were plated with nickel, which in pure form is magnetic. So, it had to either be pure nickel, steel or plated steel, and there are nickel plated steel coins of this size used in other countries that have used the Denver Mint. This could not be a plated copper penny unless it was plated with steel, which would be very unlikely and probably would have rusted in that milk carton. I discovered that the Denver Mint did produce foreign coins in 1972 and discovered a list of countries that used U.S. Mints. I discovered that some of the coins for the countries that were listed were 19 mm in diameter and were of a magnetic metal like pure nickel or nickel plated steel. I could not find out what specific foreign coins were minted by the Denver Mint in 1972, likely because the receiving countries do not like to advertise that they don't mint their own coins, and likely for proprietary reasons, since the U.S. mints were at that time competing with other world mints for the ability to mint coins for profit.</p><p><br /></p><p>Coin collecting for me has always been about learning. A coin is just a piece of metal if you don't know and understand the history behind it. I've recently cataloged over 6000 coins for a friend who inherited them. They were from virtually every country in existence during the middle of the last century and dating back to 650 AD. Though I've been collecting for almost 60 years, I'm still learning. I've discovered some unique rarities like coins struck over other coins including coins struck over coins from other countries. But I'm no expert, so had I found that curious penny with magnetic properties and a pewter color, I would have invested in the cost of sending it to PCGS myself. People spend a lot more at casinos with less chance of a return and no chance at all of learning from it. So, I applaud girldly for her efforts to find this forum, and seek some answers. And, I am also dismayed by the negativity expressed by one individual who seems quick to draw conclusions with insufficient information about the coin and to characterize people he has never met. I am also a political person, though, so am used to such negativity and strong opinions based on limited information. It just doesn't seem appropriate for a coin forum IMHO.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="frech001, post: 2149302, member: 20616"]Wow, This thread sure spurred interest, and that is why I chimed in and look forward to checking this site. Another forum I like is currently sadly too quiet. I received a copper colored 1964 bronze colored nickel from an elderly friend who had saved it in a sock for 40 years. I weighed it and examined it closely and thought I had an off metal coin. Then I remembered my high school chemistry class when we plated a coin with copper. So I examined the coin very carefully under a microscope and saw a tiny electrical contact spot which was still silver. It was not visible even under 10 power, but clear at 200 power. I weighed it on a lab scale and it weighed the same as a regular 1964 nickel. Despite my personal experience with plated coins and my knowledge of coins and metals they were made from, I took the time to investigate possible explanations to help with this post. First, a copper penny would not exhibit magnetic properties even if it were plated with nickel, which in pure form is magnetic. So, it had to either be pure nickel, steel or plated steel, and there are nickel plated steel coins of this size used in other countries that have used the Denver Mint. This could not be a plated copper penny unless it was plated with steel, which would be very unlikely and probably would have rusted in that milk carton. I discovered that the Denver Mint did produce foreign coins in 1972 and discovered a list of countries that used U.S. Mints. I discovered that some of the coins for the countries that were listed were 19 mm in diameter and were of a magnetic metal like pure nickel or nickel plated steel. I could not find out what specific foreign coins were minted by the Denver Mint in 1972, likely because the receiving countries do not like to advertise that they don't mint their own coins, and likely for proprietary reasons, since the U.S. mints were at that time competing with other world mints for the ability to mint coins for profit. Coin collecting for me has always been about learning. A coin is just a piece of metal if you don't know and understand the history behind it. I've recently cataloged over 6000 coins for a friend who inherited them. They were from virtually every country in existence during the middle of the last century and dating back to 650 AD. Though I've been collecting for almost 60 years, I'm still learning. I've discovered some unique rarities like coins struck over other coins including coins struck over coins from other countries. But I'm no expert, so had I found that curious penny with magnetic properties and a pewter color, I would have invested in the cost of sending it to PCGS myself. People spend a lot more at casinos with less chance of a return and no chance at all of learning from it. So, I applaud girldly for her efforts to find this forum, and seek some answers. And, I am also dismayed by the negativity expressed by one individual who seems quick to draw conclusions with insufficient information about the coin and to characterize people he has never met. I am also a political person, though, so am used to such negativity and strong opinions based on limited information. It just doesn't seem appropriate for a coin forum IMHO.[/QUOTE]
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