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<p>[QUOTE="Oldhoopster, post: 2911538, member: 84179"]Here is a simple explanation that I have picked up over the years from talking, reading, studying, and observing numismatics. I’m surprised it is not written in one of the numismatic glossaries, but I think it explains what some of the “seasoned” members have been trying to say.</p><p><br /></p><p>Burr- During the blanking process, the punch is incomplete and some torn metal remains attached to the blank. Most of these are removed during handling and/or in the upset mill. If the burr remains attached when the coin is stuck, and it’s pressed INTO the planchet during the minting process, it is called a burr. Normally, burrs need to be relatively large to remain attached to the blank and planchet until it gets to the die</p><p><br /></p><p>Fin – The thin edge formed during striking when metal flows into tiny gaps between the collar and die. They DO NOT indent the rim or fields. Folded fins tend to wear off quickly once the coin starts to circulate. Thicker fins DO NOT fold (I believe this is the typical definition of fin), and can be seen as uneven thicknesses of the coin when viewed from the edge</p><p><br /></p><p>Another “error” that is sometime seen is that the copper core is missing, uneven, or missing when looking at the edge. I believe, that this due to the malleable metal “smearing” or being pushed as the coin is the collar is retracted. It’s a minor thing, but if you look at the edges of enough clad coins, you’ll probably come across some where the copper core looks like its missing. I cannot offer proof, but I believe this is a reasonable explanation of this phenomenon. (In the grand scheme of things, it probably isn’t that important anyway)</p><p><br /></p><p>What you’ve been posting have been folded fins. When you consider the high speed minting process and tolerances in the equipment, it’s not surprising to see many of these on new coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>Technically, these are all burr according to the metal working industry, but by using to BURR to describe extra metal left on a mispunched blank, and FIN (or folded fin) to describe what happens during striking, it separates the two, and more accurately describes the method that where each occurs.</p><p><br /></p><p>Enough of this nonsense, I'm joining [USER=11540]@ldhair[/USER][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Oldhoopster, post: 2911538, member: 84179"]Here is a simple explanation that I have picked up over the years from talking, reading, studying, and observing numismatics. I’m surprised it is not written in one of the numismatic glossaries, but I think it explains what some of the “seasoned” members have been trying to say. Burr- During the blanking process, the punch is incomplete and some torn metal remains attached to the blank. Most of these are removed during handling and/or in the upset mill. If the burr remains attached when the coin is stuck, and it’s pressed INTO the planchet during the minting process, it is called a burr. Normally, burrs need to be relatively large to remain attached to the blank and planchet until it gets to the die Fin – The thin edge formed during striking when metal flows into tiny gaps between the collar and die. They DO NOT indent the rim or fields. Folded fins tend to wear off quickly once the coin starts to circulate. Thicker fins DO NOT fold (I believe this is the typical definition of fin), and can be seen as uneven thicknesses of the coin when viewed from the edge Another “error” that is sometime seen is that the copper core is missing, uneven, or missing when looking at the edge. I believe, that this due to the malleable metal “smearing” or being pushed as the coin is the collar is retracted. It’s a minor thing, but if you look at the edges of enough clad coins, you’ll probably come across some where the copper core looks like its missing. I cannot offer proof, but I believe this is a reasonable explanation of this phenomenon. (In the grand scheme of things, it probably isn’t that important anyway) What you’ve been posting have been folded fins. When you consider the high speed minting process and tolerances in the equipment, it’s not surprising to see many of these on new coins. Technically, these are all burr according to the metal working industry, but by using to BURR to describe extra metal left on a mispunched blank, and FIN (or folded fin) to describe what happens during striking, it separates the two, and more accurately describes the method that where each occurs. Enough of this nonsense, I'm joining [USER=11540]@ldhair[/USER][/QUOTE]
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