All Hadrian provincials coins

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  1. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Great looking Tet, Eric.
     
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  3. Dafydd

    Dafydd Well-Known Member

    Now this isn't a provincial coin but it is a very interesting radio programme on Hadrian Wall broadcast on BBC Radio 4 this afternoon that may interest people.
    See http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08y0wsl
     
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  4. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    Hadrian Denarius 128-32 AD Minerva standing right Eastern mint
    Reference.
    cf RIC 330; Strack *36a;

    Obv. HADRIANVS AVGVSTVS P P
    Laureate head right.

    Rev. COS III
    Minerva standing right, holding spear in right hand, left hand resting on shield set on ground.

    3.39 gr
    897 P Hadrian eastern Strack36a.jpg
     
  5. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    What makes this a Provincial issue??
     
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  6. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    It's an eastern mint :D so not official but provincial
     
  7. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Oh! I didn't realize these Eastern mints were not official. Hmm.

    Is classifying these Eastern mint coins (of this era) widely accepted as Provincial? Do some scholars and books call them Imperial? The legends are latin and the coins are otherwise essentially exactly the same as their Imperial counterparts. Seems like a gray area to me, or perhaps a point only pedants would fight over :D
     
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  8. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Nice addition, Eric. I like the toning.
     
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  9. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    Dear TIF,

    for me a Hadrian provincial is not minted in Rome or for Rome :D
     
  10. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I was under the impression that the Hadrian denarii were like the Flavians before and the Severans after and considered official denarii of a branch mint. If they are not official, they are not Provincials (local issues by local officials) as I understand the term. I have not studied them but did not know anyone considered them unofficial.
     
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  11. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    That has been my understanding as well. RIC II.1 considers imperial branch mints as 'official' because their products circulated empire wide. For instance, Antiochene denarii are found in British hoards. Cistophori struck in Rome are considered 'official' imperial issues too even though they circulated locally in Asia Minor.
     
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  12. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    IONIA, Miletus. Hadrian Ae 36 Zeus standing
    Reference.
    BMC - ;SNG von Aulock- ;SNG Copenhagen -; SNG France- ;RPC - ; RPC III,

    Obv. AΔPIANOC KAICAP ΟΛΥΜΠΙΟC
    Laureate head right.

    Rev: POVΦOV TO B ΜΙΛΗ- CΙΩΝ ΕΠΙ
    Zeus standing right, wearing chlamys, holding thunderbolt, and resting hand on hip.

    26.25 gr
    36 mm
    6h

    Note.
    The worship of Hadrian as 'Zeus Olympios' in the east of the empire was also practiced in Miletus. A proof of this is this coinage, which the emperor explicitly names as 'ΟΛΙΜΠΙΟC'. In addition, the archaeological excavations in Miletus have been used to discover a large number of household altars who had been consecrated to Hadrian, who had inscriptions such as "The Caesar Trajan Hadrian Sebastos Zeus Olympios" (Friesen, Imperial Cults, p. 177)

    Just in today what a big whopper 898 P Hadrian RPC.JPG
     
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  13. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    PHRYGIA, Acmoneia Hadrian AE 17 Artemis standing
    Reference.
    RPC III, 2612; Lindgren A860A; Wa 5498


    Obv. ΑΔΡΙΑΝΟС ΚΑΙСΑΡ
    Laureate bust of Hadrian, r., with aegis

    Rev. ΑΚΜΟΝΕΩΝ
    Artemis in short chiton standing facing, drawing arrow from quiver with her r., holding bow in l.; in field, l., eagle-tipped sword.

    2.70 gr
    17 mm

    Thx John Anthony

    901 P Hadrian RPC2612.jpg
     
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  14. Nikos P.

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  15. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Welcome @Nikos P. You would get more answers if you started a new thread. More will see it and respond. Good luck.
     
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  16. Nikos P.

    Nikos P. New Member

    I will follow your advice...thanks a lot!
     
  17. Andress

    Andress New Member

    I am looking to buy an ancient coin from the time of John the disciple eith a portrait of Jesus.
    Can you please tell me Gabriel Vandervort and ancient resources is s reputable dealer
     
  18. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Welcome @Andress. Sorry, I can't help you. I don't collect that era of coinage. But others here do and they will chime in soon.
     
  19. Andress

    Andress New Member

    Thank you !
     
  20. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    The first coin with a portrait of Jesus was well into the Byzantine period six hundred years after the time of John. The first nation ruled by a Christian king was Aksum in Africa who only predated the conversion of Constantine by a few years. Neither of them put Christ on coins. The matter of what Christ had looked like and whether it was acceptable to represent him in human form was very much in dispute then.
    See:

    https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=120506
     
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  21. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    PAMPHYLIA, Side Hadrian Ae 24 Athena standing left
    Reference.
    unpublished

    Obv. [ ] [ ] ΑΔΡΙΑΝΟС?
    Laureate, draped, bust right

    Rev. СΙΔΗΤωΝ
    Athena standing facing, head left, holding palm frond and pomegranate.

    8.80 gr
    24 mm
    12h

    Note.
    From the Steve Cooper Collection.
    912 P Hadrian RPC.jpg
     
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