All casts?

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  1. bsr045

    bsr045 Well-Known Member

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  3. Valentinian

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  4. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member Supporter

    Casts? I don't think so. The styles don't look quite right to my semi/untrained eye. Casts should replicate the style of the originals used as masters. Struck fakes? I would be interested in hearing the opinions of our late Roman specialists.
     
  5. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark Date Nolite Rogare

    why do you think these coins are cast?
     
  6. bsr045

    bsr045 Well-Known Member

    s-l1600.jpg
    some of them have very suspicious (to me) surfaces
     
  7. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..the seller from France?..yeah.. all of them look cast..why lrb's tho idk...
     
  8. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark Date Nolite Rogare

    nevermind
     
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  9. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee Well-Known Member

    They seem to appear very "white" colored and not the traditional bronze brown color that I'm used to seeing... but I'm not terribly experienced.

    Some have some pitting, but I'm not sure if that would be from casting or simply age.
    s-l1600 (18).jpg s-l1600 (17).jpg

    And some look like they are stuck.
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    Just sharing my amateur thoughts and hope to hear from others to learn more.
     
  10. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Most look ok to me
     
  11. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    IMHO Original ancient coins, but with a new fresh silverwash
     
  12. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    They look okay to me. I think the off color is just bad photo processing. Notice the verdigris on the reverse of this coin? That's pretty hard to fake. And the color looks like whoever processed the photo reduced the saturation quite a bit
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    Some of the Constantine IIs further down the page have some really neat obverse portraits.
     
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  13. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum

    I have no real opinion concerning the authenticity of the these coins, but I think @gsimonel is correct about the images being over saturated.
     
  14. seth77

    seth77 Well-Known Member

    All of them are good and most in VF condition. The pitting alternating with the glossy surface is most likely the result chemical cleaning with a strong acidic substance.
    Most also look to have developed a post-cleaning patina so the cleaning was likely done long time ago.
    Seems like someone is selling his late roman collection.
     
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  15. Jay GT4

    Jay GT4 Well-Known Member

    +1

    Casting bubbles are usually pretty round, corrosion tends to have sharp edges. These all look fine to me.
     
  16. Roman Collector

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    I think they are genuine, just poorly photographed. They may have been cleaned with electrolysis or acid solutions (it's hard to say).
     
  17. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee Well-Known Member

    I'm learning so much! Thanks all for the details!
     
  18. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    I bought this coin a few years ago before knowing what more modern silvering looks like. This coin looks to have been relivered in recent times. It was apperently quite a common practice in the 19th Century.

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  19. bsr045

    bsr045 Well-Known Member

    Interesting, i wonder what happens when you apply modern silvering techniques over verdigris? Does it not take?
     
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