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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 3727913, member: 19463"]<img src="https://www.cointalk.com/styles/default/xenmoods/Bookworm.png" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><font size="4"><b><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/members/sulla80.99456/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/members/sulla80.99456/">Sulla8</a></b></font></p><p>Akragas AE cast 'tooth' trias...</p><p>I’m not sure if it is the “coin” that I like or just the great photo - either way - wow!</p><p><br /></p><p>I'm moving this from the game thread because it has been a while since these have been discussed here. I like them and, I believe, they were represented in the X6 collection but I don't recall how many other people liked them. The photo that got the Sulla8 post:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]999529[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>The answer is neither but both are as good as I can do. The coins are not easy to photograph if clear and next to impossible if only of average 'grade'. The Akragas cast 'teeth' from mid 5th century BC are at least unusual with or without details. Unfortunately the vast majority of the ones you see are low grade and not clear on one side or the other. We see them sold with little or no detail. The crab is harder to find nice than the eagle. The denomination dots are usually more clear and follow the standard 1/12 unit per dot system so 4 dots is 4/12 or 1/3 of the unit and we call them 'trias'. I also have a bit more scarce two dot hexas (below) but by far the most common are the trias. </p><p>[ATTACH=full]999530[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>CNG has sold quite a number of trias both better and worse than mine AND they have the denominations I lack. More unusual are the three dot tetras (1/4) (beware of poorly detailed trias that are missing a dot) Very different are the 1/12 onkias which are capsule or lozenge shaped with eagle head and crab claw but no dot. </p><p><a href="https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=206181" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=206181" rel="nofollow">https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=206181</a></p><p><img src="https://www.cngcoins.com/photos/enlarged/2760017.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>This is on my want list. I have passed up many for being what I considered overpriced but being only two sided makes them more likely to be found clear on both animals. The example above is particularly clear. A trias with this clarity would be pricey. </p><p><br /></p><p>They are early as bronze coins go and show that all coins do not have to have the standard disk shape. There are other AE cast shapes from other places. We all know the Thracian dolphins and leaves (or arrow points, depending on who you ask) but the dot denominations here prove the Akragas issues were coins and not just metal to be traded by weight. I believe one belongs in any collection of archaic Greek coins. Who else has these or has any interest in them?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 3727913, member: 19463"][IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/styles/default/xenmoods/Bookworm.png[/IMG] [SIZE=4][B][URL='https://www.cointalk.com/members/sulla80.99456/']Sulla8[/URL][/B][/SIZE] Akragas AE cast 'tooth' trias... I’m not sure if it is the “coin” that I like or just the great photo - either way - wow! I'm moving this from the game thread because it has been a while since these have been discussed here. I like them and, I believe, they were represented in the X6 collection but I don't recall how many other people liked them. The photo that got the Sulla8 post: [ATTACH=full]999529[/ATTACH] The answer is neither but both are as good as I can do. The coins are not easy to photograph if clear and next to impossible if only of average 'grade'. The Akragas cast 'teeth' from mid 5th century BC are at least unusual with or without details. Unfortunately the vast majority of the ones you see are low grade and not clear on one side or the other. We see them sold with little or no detail. The crab is harder to find nice than the eagle. The denomination dots are usually more clear and follow the standard 1/12 unit per dot system so 4 dots is 4/12 or 1/3 of the unit and we call them 'trias'. I also have a bit more scarce two dot hexas (below) but by far the most common are the trias. [ATTACH=full]999530[/ATTACH] CNG has sold quite a number of trias both better and worse than mine AND they have the denominations I lack. More unusual are the three dot tetras (1/4) (beware of poorly detailed trias that are missing a dot) Very different are the 1/12 onkias which are capsule or lozenge shaped with eagle head and crab claw but no dot. [URL]https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=206181[/URL] [IMG]https://www.cngcoins.com/photos/enlarged/2760017.jpg[/IMG] This is on my want list. I have passed up many for being what I considered overpriced but being only two sided makes them more likely to be found clear on both animals. The example above is particularly clear. A trias with this clarity would be pricey. They are early as bronze coins go and show that all coins do not have to have the standard disk shape. There are other AE cast shapes from other places. We all know the Thracian dolphins and leaves (or arrow points, depending on who you ask) but the dot denominations here prove the Akragas issues were coins and not just metal to be traded by weight. I believe one belongs in any collection of archaic Greek coins. Who else has these or has any interest in them?[/QUOTE]
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