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<p>[QUOTE="Kevon, post: 7632778, member: 116470"]Akragas is a popular target for high quality counterfeits. I pulled the risky trigger on a tetradrachm and even upon further inspection have not been able to conclusively determine whether it is genuine or fake.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here is the coin in question.</p><p> <img src="https://i.imgur.com/09twUYt.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://i.imgur.com/3rCWS8P.png" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>Description by the auction house:</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>The obverse is associated with both a genuine die and a high quality fake die. The lettering reminds me more of the counterfeit. The edge flaws aren't exactly typical on Akragas tets which could mean the coin has been hot-pressed. The reverse die is similar to many others tetradrachms, but I have not been able to find a die match. The surface texture doesn't provide us with many hints; it's flat and looks worn. The banker's marks don't really mean anything and could be modern. The "die rust" could be fake. The weight is correct, but that'd be par for the course on a good fake.</p><p><br /></p><p>On the other hand, the counterfeits with this obverse have not been associated with this reverse type. While the "die rust" on the obverse could be fake I have not seen it on any of the counterfeits. There are small hints of doubling on the reverse. Where the crab's legs seems to end there are actually very faint signs of the full legs as if they've worn off. The coin has been struck (or pressed) at a very slight angle. Extremely hard silicate material can be found in some of the cavities and I have found grains of sand stuck in the cavities.</p><p><br /></p><p>It seems like some of the cracked parts might be showing crystallization, but even at 15x magnification I'm finding it impossible to tell. Most of the rougher fractured surfaces which might show the internal structure seem to be covered by the (silica-like?) encrustations.</p><p><br /></p><p>The only perfect obverse match that I've been able to find was this tetradrachm sold at Fritz Rudolf Künker Auction 312 (lot 2106):</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://i.imgur.com/SqwSgmu.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Here are two examples of the typical fake as per Forgery Network:</p><p><img src="https://i.imgur.com/Hxsb32t.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="https://i.imgur.com/VeSjLHd.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Overlaying the Künker coin with a fake suggests that there are very slight differences, similar to when my coin is overlaid with a fake. Otherwise it is also very close to the fakes including much of the feathering. It has not escaped me that the Künker coin might also be a counterfeit and some of the differences might be explained by the angles of the photos.</p><p><br /></p><p>This case has left me puzzled. What are your thoughts?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Kevon, post: 7632778, member: 116470"]Akragas is a popular target for high quality counterfeits. I pulled the risky trigger on a tetradrachm and even upon further inspection have not been able to conclusively determine whether it is genuine or fake. Here is the coin in question. [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/09twUYt.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/3rCWS8P.png[/IMG] Description by the auction house: The obverse is associated with both a genuine die and a high quality fake die. The lettering reminds me more of the counterfeit. The edge flaws aren't exactly typical on Akragas tets which could mean the coin has been hot-pressed. The reverse die is similar to many others tetradrachms, but I have not been able to find a die match. The surface texture doesn't provide us with many hints; it's flat and looks worn. The banker's marks don't really mean anything and could be modern. The "die rust" could be fake. The weight is correct, but that'd be par for the course on a good fake. On the other hand, the counterfeits with this obverse have not been associated with this reverse type. While the "die rust" on the obverse could be fake I have not seen it on any of the counterfeits. There are small hints of doubling on the reverse. Where the crab's legs seems to end there are actually very faint signs of the full legs as if they've worn off. The coin has been struck (or pressed) at a very slight angle. Extremely hard silicate material can be found in some of the cavities and I have found grains of sand stuck in the cavities. It seems like some of the cracked parts might be showing crystallization, but even at 15x magnification I'm finding it impossible to tell. Most of the rougher fractured surfaces which might show the internal structure seem to be covered by the (silica-like?) encrustations. The only perfect obverse match that I've been able to find was this tetradrachm sold at Fritz Rudolf Künker Auction 312 (lot 2106): [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/SqwSgmu.jpg[/IMG] Here are two examples of the typical fake as per Forgery Network: [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/Hxsb32t.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/VeSjLHd.jpg[/IMG] Overlaying the Künker coin with a fake suggests that there are very slight differences, similar to when my coin is overlaid with a fake. Otherwise it is also very close to the fakes including much of the feathering. It has not escaped me that the Künker coin might also be a counterfeit and some of the differences might be explained by the angles of the photos. This case has left me puzzled. What are your thoughts?[/QUOTE]
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