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<p>[QUOTE="TIF, post: 2635541, member: 56859"]I don't think the obverse of your coin is that bad, Bing, but agree that the real interest is the reverse. <strike>I wonder if the BCD Akarnania reference number for your coin is correct. I don't have it but if there is some logic to the numbering system, based on the correlates I see in Potamikon your coin might instead by BCD Akarnania 38 or 39 (Potamikon 465 or 466). I wonder what [USER=78411]@Nicholas Molinari[/USER] will make of it</strike> Nick was addressing this issue while I was composing this post <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>I bough one of these in 2015 in part because I liked the coin, specifically the MFB, and in part for the pedigree. CNG had been selling selections from a 19th century collection of Ottoman statesman and coin collector, Alexandre Carathéodory Pasha (1833-1906). I like interesting pedigrees <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>This deserves a reshoot. I just looked at <a href="http://cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=286825" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=286825" rel="nofollow">CNG's images</a> and I like them better <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie10" alt=":oops:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://static.wixstatic.com/media/ae43f8_50da028ede1942328a8e49d2862e9ea7.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><b>AKARNANIA, Federal Coinage (Akarnanian Confederacy)</b></p><p>3rd century BCE</p><p>Æ (20mm, 6.38 g, 10h)</p><p>Obv: laureate head of Zeus right, bird behind (really, there is <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />, it's just not very clear on this coin); API below</p><p>Rev: head of Acheloios as a man-faced bull to right; trident head above, monogram to left. Ref: BCD Akarnania <strike>32</strike> 33c; HGC 4, 736; <i>Potamikon</i> Leukas Group IIIA, 461*</p><p><i>From the collection of Alexandre Carathéodory Pasha (1833-1906)</i></p><p><br /></p><p>Checking <i>Potamikon</i>, I think the CNG might be slightly off but I don't have the BCD or Hoover references.</p><p><br /></p><p>The reverse monogram isn't well shown in my images. CNG's show it better (see below) and it looks like a mashup of A and P rather than A and K, therefore Potamikon 461, which correlates with BCD Akarnania 33c. Potamikon 462 with ligate AK correlates with BCD Akarnania 32.</p><p><br /></p><p><i>Potamikon</i> also goes into detail about likely timelines of Arkarnania and the Federation, pegging this coin as being struck in Leukas from 219-211 BCE.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]580687[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="TIF, post: 2635541, member: 56859"]I don't think the obverse of your coin is that bad, Bing, but agree that the real interest is the reverse. [S]I wonder if the BCD Akarnania reference number for your coin is correct. I don't have it but if there is some logic to the numbering system, based on the correlates I see in Potamikon your coin might instead by BCD Akarnania 38 or 39 (Potamikon 465 or 466). I wonder what [USER=78411]@Nicholas Molinari[/USER] will make of it[/S] Nick was addressing this issue while I was composing this post :D I bough one of these in 2015 in part because I liked the coin, specifically the MFB, and in part for the pedigree. CNG had been selling selections from a 19th century collection of Ottoman statesman and coin collector, Alexandre Carathéodory Pasha (1833-1906). I like interesting pedigrees :) This deserves a reshoot. I just looked at [URL='http://cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=286825']CNG's images[/URL] and I like them better :oops:. [IMG]https://static.wixstatic.com/media/ae43f8_50da028ede1942328a8e49d2862e9ea7.jpg[/IMG] [B]AKARNANIA, Federal Coinage (Akarnanian Confederacy)[/B] 3rd century BCE Æ (20mm, 6.38 g, 10h) Obv: laureate head of Zeus right, bird behind (really, there is :D, it's just not very clear on this coin); API below Rev: head of Acheloios as a man-faced bull to right; trident head above, monogram to left. Ref: BCD Akarnania [S]32[/S] 33c; HGC 4, 736; [I]Potamikon[/I] Leukas Group IIIA, 461* [I]From the collection of Alexandre Carathéodory Pasha (1833-1906)[/I] Checking [I]Potamikon[/I], I think the CNG might be slightly off but I don't have the BCD or Hoover references. The reverse monogram isn't well shown in my images. CNG's show it better (see below) and it looks like a mashup of A and P rather than A and K, therefore Potamikon 461, which correlates with BCD Akarnania 33c. Potamikon 462 with ligate AK correlates with BCD Akarnania 32. [I]Potamikon[/I] also goes into detail about likely timelines of Arkarnania and the Federation, pegging this coin as being struck in Leukas from 219-211 BCE. [ATTACH=full]580687[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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