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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;muhfff, post: 25756643, member: 71559&quot;]I think its hard, if not impossible, to teach the AI to grade coins as good as people, if even people themselves cannot agree on coin grades.</p><p>I mean, everything is peach and perfect until there are very standard looking coins. Maybe it would be possible to let the AI to grade silver eagles, these are almost all in perfect or near perfect grade, and usually the decision is 70, 69 or 68.</p><p>As soon as there more complex decisions, the problems appear.</p><p>How should the toned coins treated? I have understood, that years ago the toned coins were treated as damaged coins (environmental damage), today they are mostly accepted. Maybe in 20 years these are treated as damaged coins again? I have understood that for example CAC is very harsh on these, most get artificially toned designations.</p><p>Or what should be the grade, if the coin is weakly struck?</p><p>Or what should be the grade, if the coin is struck with unevenly worn out dies (for example on side has been struck with fresh die, other not so much). Or coin has just uneven wear, has been in jewlery for example?</p><p>Or medieval coins. They might be bent or unevenly struck because of the manufacturing process.</p><p>Or what should be the grade, if there are chopmarks? Counterstrikes?</p><p>Or mint errors? Clips for example?</p><p><br /></p><p>During the history, literally hundreds of thousands (if not even millions) of different coins have been made. The AI should be able to recognize all of them to understand, what technology has been used to make them, what part of the coin fields is scratches and which part is actual design elements and so on.</p><p>I wont say, that its impossible to teach the AI to deal with all of this, but how much time does it take to get more or less accurate model and what does it cost? How much overhead would it add to the current business models? In short - would it actually make sense? Would it pay off?</p><p><br /></p><p>But I can see some potential in AI in some simpler steps. It can maybe help the TPGs (or actually graders) to avoid technical errors. For example the AI can verify, that the coin in the slab is actually dime, not quarter. That would save TPGs some money, less reslabing. Or maybe it can detect potential problem areas on coin, and the grader can then decide, if this is actually problem or not. Or maybe it can warn the grader, that some type of coins are known for fakes, and can point out some known tell signs.</p><p><br /></p><p>But general AI, which can detect coin types, varieties, fakes, assign grades and write Shakespeare poems at the same time? I&#039;m a bit skeptical about that part... Usually the tools that are meant for everything are not good at anything. But I will happy if I&#039;m wrong <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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