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<p>[QUOTE="Dansco_Dude, post: 25707122, member: 147679"]Great discussion everyone. Some thoughts to share after I've had time to think through where all this is heading.</p><p><br /></p><p>I shared my <a href="https://www.coinbooks.org/v27/club_nbs_esylum_v27n41.html#article21" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.coinbooks.org/v27/club_nbs_esylum_v27n41.html#article21" rel="nofollow">thoughts</a> on last week's The E-Sylum, I would append my thoughts on where AI grading is headed below:</p><p><br /></p><p>"In short, AI is now just two steps away from surpassing human graders. The next step is AI being able to analyze a live video feed. The final step is integrating live video into a robotics platform. The AI would be able to analyze a coin in real-time. Like a human, it can dynamically rotate a coin to see all angles. But beyond a human, it can:</p><ul> <li>Adjust to any lighting conditions.</li> <li>Quickly snap from 2x to 20x lens to inspect specific spots.</li> <li>Switch to different viewing modes like LiDAR for 3D scanning.</li> <li>X-rays are used to determine the composition of counterfeits and identify them.</li> <li>And so much more</li> </ul><p>At some point the narrative will shift from <b>"AI can now mimic a human grader"</b> to <b>"AI is better than a human grader in every way"</b>.</p><p><br /></p><p>I will note that my underlying assumption is AI using technical grading standards. Market grading is a whole other beast."</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>The biggest issue is that a lot the ways that AI is being implemented is for specific use cases. Gmail can summarize emails. Google docs can reword your documents. But so far, most of these actions aren't connected...yet. I know that Google and others are working feverishly to get AI's to effectively tie all these things together. One path is through '<a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/lanceeliot/2024/10/15/openai-newly-released-ai-product-swarm-swiftly-brings-agentic-ai-into-the-real-world/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/lanceeliot/2024/10/15/openai-newly-released-ai-product-swarm-swiftly-brings-agentic-ai-into-the-real-world/" rel="nofollow">agentic swarms</a>'. Basically, agents that you can tell to do a certain action, and it will go out and do them.</p><p><br /></p><p>If one of your turning tests isn't agentic but more on its raw reasoning and intellectual power, OpenAI's <a href="https://openai.com/index/introducing-openai-o1-preview/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://openai.com/index/introducing-openai-o1-preview/" rel="nofollow">o1 model</a> may pass the test. You can test the model out yourself if you have an OpenAI subscription. If not, and you have a question you want to ask, feel free to let me know, and I will post my results. Keep in mind that this model can't analyze images yet.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>This is a big outstanding question I have as well. Compugrade struggled with weak strikes and wear. I suspect this will be overcome with live video analysis and real-time lighting adjustments.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Dansco_Dude, post: 25707122, member: 147679"]Great discussion everyone. Some thoughts to share after I've had time to think through where all this is heading. I shared my [URL='https://www.coinbooks.org/v27/club_nbs_esylum_v27n41.html#article21']thoughts[/URL] on last week's The E-Sylum, I would append my thoughts on where AI grading is headed below: "In short, AI is now just two steps away from surpassing human graders. The next step is AI being able to analyze a live video feed. The final step is integrating live video into a robotics platform. The AI would be able to analyze a coin in real-time. Like a human, it can dynamically rotate a coin to see all angles. But beyond a human, it can: [LIST] [*]Adjust to any lighting conditions. [*]Quickly snap from 2x to 20x lens to inspect specific spots. [*]Switch to different viewing modes like LiDAR for 3D scanning. [*]X-rays are used to determine the composition of counterfeits and identify them. [*]And so much more [/LIST] At some point the narrative will shift from [B]"AI can now mimic a human grader"[/B] to [B]"AI is better than a human grader in every way"[/B]. I will note that my underlying assumption is AI using technical grading standards. Market grading is a whole other beast." The biggest issue is that a lot the ways that AI is being implemented is for specific use cases. Gmail can summarize emails. Google docs can reword your documents. But so far, most of these actions aren't connected...yet. I know that Google and others are working feverishly to get AI's to effectively tie all these things together. One path is through '[URL='https://www.forbes.com/sites/lanceeliot/2024/10/15/openai-newly-released-ai-product-swarm-swiftly-brings-agentic-ai-into-the-real-world/']agentic swarms[/URL]'. Basically, agents that you can tell to do a certain action, and it will go out and do them. If one of your turning tests isn't agentic but more on its raw reasoning and intellectual power, OpenAI's [URL='https://openai.com/index/introducing-openai-o1-preview/']o1 model[/URL] may pass the test. You can test the model out yourself if you have an OpenAI subscription. If not, and you have a question you want to ask, feel free to let me know, and I will post my results. Keep in mind that this model can't analyze images yet. This is a big outstanding question I have as well. Compugrade struggled with weak strikes and wear. I suspect this will be overcome with live video analysis and real-time lighting adjustments.[/QUOTE]
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