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<p>[QUOTE="geekpryde, post: 25684820, member: 36248"]I tried that "AI" ebay button one time and said....Yeah, NO!</p><p><br /></p><p>But what the OP is talking about is a completely different animal. This isn't just taking some facts about the coin and creating a ludicrous verbose description for selling a coin, its much more powerful than that. Eventually the AI's will have, in all intends of purposes, actual intelligence in the sense it wont rely on a set of facts about a coin from a user, but be able to be self sufficient and thoughtful.</p><p><br /></p><p>I suspect it will be a very helpful tool for the grading companies, at the very least, for weeding out counterfeits, altered coins, mis-identified coins, identifying new varieties, and other tedious but behind-the-scenes workloads. Meaning, the actual grades will likely be done by humans for a very long time, both because IA is going to be far too critical of surface condition to give the final say on a coin grade within our existing and well understood 70 point scale, and because it likely needs many more years to mature. But the AI tools will definitely be utilized for the mundane TPG tasks because they will be very fast, very consistent, and can *unfortunately* eventually replace many expensive experts, say for example in Variety Attribution.</p><p><br /></p><p>You sure bet that the big players are either going to license this AI tech when it starts to mature, or they are going to face both technical, financial, and "sizzle" / marketing threats from existing or new competitors. They can keep a human face on grading forever, but the grunt work is going to be AI, it would almost be insane to not use this tool in some or many aspects of the business.</p><p><br /></p><p>[USER=147679]@Dansco_Dude[/USER] I appreciate you keeping me and fellow CT members here abreast of this AI developments as it related to our shared hobby.</p><p><br /></p><p style="text-align: center"><i>Ramblings below, read at your own risk:</i></p><p><br /></p><p>Personally, every time I try to use AI to answer a very well structured question, it fails me. So I don't try that often. I am also not an AI fanatic or AI detractor. My boss is an AI pie-in-the-sky type of guy, and I roll my eyes. But I know its only matter of years, and not if, AI start doing some very impressive and scary stuff.</p><p><br /></p><p>I have what I call "geekpryde Turing Test", which I try every 4 months or so for a trip between Maine and western Pennsylvania. I keep waiting and hoping it can tell me where to eat 4 hours into an 8 hour trip along a known route by car, and AI fails me every time, and usually spectacularly fails me. I want restaurants that will be open, are high rated, and based on where I am expected to be half way through the trip. Until the free versions of AI can give me basic but useful answers like that, I will continue to find it useless in my personal life.</p><p><br /></p><p>If google can tell me just about to the minute when I will arrive for Maine to PA trip, including all the updated accident, road closure, construction info, etc, it's almost insane to me that its google + AI cannot tell me where to eat along that route that is actually Infront of me along a path that is essentially one-way (highway). A current radius of restaurants that is around me, and which will be behind me in a few minutes, is totally useless. I want AI to pick a place far in advance of me arriving, based on all the fancy telemetric data at its disposal, but maybe I am expecting too much and this is not a good task for AI?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="geekpryde, post: 25684820, member: 36248"]I tried that "AI" ebay button one time and said....Yeah, NO! But what the OP is talking about is a completely different animal. This isn't just taking some facts about the coin and creating a ludicrous verbose description for selling a coin, its much more powerful than that. Eventually the AI's will have, in all intends of purposes, actual intelligence in the sense it wont rely on a set of facts about a coin from a user, but be able to be self sufficient and thoughtful. I suspect it will be a very helpful tool for the grading companies, at the very least, for weeding out counterfeits, altered coins, mis-identified coins, identifying new varieties, and other tedious but behind-the-scenes workloads. Meaning, the actual grades will likely be done by humans for a very long time, both because IA is going to be far too critical of surface condition to give the final say on a coin grade within our existing and well understood 70 point scale, and because it likely needs many more years to mature. But the AI tools will definitely be utilized for the mundane TPG tasks because they will be very fast, very consistent, and can *unfortunately* eventually replace many expensive experts, say for example in Variety Attribution. You sure bet that the big players are either going to license this AI tech when it starts to mature, or they are going to face both technical, financial, and "sizzle" / marketing threats from existing or new competitors. They can keep a human face on grading forever, but the grunt work is going to be AI, it would almost be insane to not use this tool in some or many aspects of the business. [USER=147679]@Dansco_Dude[/USER] I appreciate you keeping me and fellow CT members here abreast of this AI developments as it related to our shared hobby. [CENTER][I]Ramblings below, read at your own risk:[/I][/CENTER] Personally, every time I try to use AI to answer a very well structured question, it fails me. So I don't try that often. I am also not an AI fanatic or AI detractor. My boss is an AI pie-in-the-sky type of guy, and I roll my eyes. But I know its only matter of years, and not if, AI start doing some very impressive and scary stuff. I have what I call "geekpryde Turing Test", which I try every 4 months or so for a trip between Maine and western Pennsylvania. I keep waiting and hoping it can tell me where to eat 4 hours into an 8 hour trip along a known route by car, and AI fails me every time, and usually spectacularly fails me. I want restaurants that will be open, are high rated, and based on where I am expected to be half way through the trip. Until the free versions of AI can give me basic but useful answers like that, I will continue to find it useless in my personal life. If google can tell me just about to the minute when I will arrive for Maine to PA trip, including all the updated accident, road closure, construction info, etc, it's almost insane to me that its google + AI cannot tell me where to eat along that route that is actually Infront of me along a path that is essentially one-way (highway). A current radius of restaurants that is around me, and which will be behind me in a few minutes, is totally useless. I want AI to pick a place far in advance of me arriving, based on all the fancy telemetric data at its disposal, but maybe I am expecting too much and this is not a good task for AI?[/QUOTE]
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