Ahenobarbus denarius question

Well here are some other coins I would appreciate an opinion on that I am not sure about.
This one is a Sextus Pompey NRCV 1391 Weight 4.03 gms.


The next one is a Pompey NRCV 1390 Weight 3.27 gms.

I have a few coins I acquired in trades or purchased over the past year that I am uncertain of and I will post them but I am trying to improve my photography and will try a white background next.

 

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While visiting friends in London, I found one myself in my change a few years ago. I bet they don't look that sharp today



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The first appears to match a Toronto Group forgery

http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/displayimage.php?album=search&cat=0&pos=17



And the second... I don't know what or who it is(it's a type I'm not familiar with; maybe not even copying a real coin?) but given the company it keeps, it is suspect.

 

I agree with @TIF on this. The second is guilty on association if nothing else.

 

I believe the second is a fantasy type - a combination of this octavian denarius from circa 41 B.C. with obverse legend "CAESAR III VIR R P C" and this reverse from circa 43 B.C. with horseman and "SC" in exergue. The style is completely divergent from authentic examples of either type and the metal appears to have been "aged" with acid. It is definitely modern, unfortunately.

 

Pompey looks like a cast, possibly of a fake host. Note the soapiness and lack of detail. Here is a genuine example for comparison:

 

Very helpful comments, thank you. I have been trading with someone with a large collection and i suspect that one or two of his dealers have been passing fakes on him. I am comfortable with many but some of the scarcer coins need opinions on.
I am very grateful for the generous help and will post some more coins shortly.
Fortunately I can return them.

 

Oh and by the way Cucombor, that's a nice example and scarce now as people removed them from their change.