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<p>[QUOTE="Valentinian, post: 7545939, member: 44316"]Byzantine anonymous folles were issued from 970 to c. 1118. There have been many threads about them and this is one web site about them:</p><p><a href="http://augustuscoins.com/ed/ByzAnon/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://augustuscoins.com/ed/ByzAnon/" rel="nofollow">http://augustuscoins.com/ed/ByzAnon/</a></p><p>This thread is about the resumption of "named" types. Starting under Constantine X, Ducas, 1059-1067, "named" folles were also issued (Anonymous Classes E and F, both scarce, are attributed to him). Here is the first named follis type after the beginning of anonymous types. It is a very common type.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1302065[/ATTACH]</p><p>Constantine X and Eudocia.</p><p>29-28 mm. 10.58 grams.</p><p>Sear 1853. DO 3.2 Constantine X, 8.</p><p><br /></p><p>Most coins of this type are garbled because they are poorly overstruck on earlier issues or badly double struck. It is hard to get one where the legend is legible. I bought this one because almost all the legend is well-struck and clear:</p><p>Obverse: Christ standing. +ЄMMA-NOVHA "God is with us"</p><p>Reverse: Eudocia (on left) and Constantine X (on right) standing, with each with hand holding labarum with cross on its staff. Constantine's hand is higher on the shaft.</p><p>Legend begins at 1:30: +<b>KWN </b>T ΔK <b>ЄVΔK</b> AVΓ</p><p>(Constantine Dukas Eudocia ...)</p><p>(I expect [USER=84047]@Voulgaroktonou[/USER] knows the full translation and I hope he will contribute it below.)</p><p><br /></p><p>EDIT: [USER=84047]@Voulgaroktonou[/USER] did. In capital letters it would be</p><p><b>K<font size="6">ω</font>N</b>[Σ]<b>Τ</b>[ΑΝΤΙΝΟΣ O] <b>Δ</b>[ΟY]<b>Κ</b>[ΑΣ] [<b>ЄΥΔ</b>[Ο]<b>Κ</b>[ΙΑ] <b>ΑYΓ</b>[ΟΥΣΤΟΙ]</p><p>Constantine, (the) Doukas, Eudocia, Augusti [or, emperors]</p><p><br /></p><p>Normally with two rulers the place of honor would be on the left. This one has Eudocia, his wife, on the left. Grierson (DO 3.1, page 110) explains this unusual position by noting that the cross in the middle represents Christ who is in the middle, the correct place of honor when three figures are shown. When three are shown, the second-highest position is on the right, and Constantine is there as he should be. He notes this is the only Byzantine issue with two figures with the higher-ranking on the right.</p><p><br /></p><p>Show us some post-anonymous named folles with a legible name![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Valentinian, post: 7545939, member: 44316"]Byzantine anonymous folles were issued from 970 to c. 1118. There have been many threads about them and this is one web site about them: [URL]http://augustuscoins.com/ed/ByzAnon/[/URL] This thread is about the resumption of "named" types. Starting under Constantine X, Ducas, 1059-1067, "named" folles were also issued (Anonymous Classes E and F, both scarce, are attributed to him). Here is the first named follis type after the beginning of anonymous types. It is a very common type. [ATTACH=full]1302065[/ATTACH] Constantine X and Eudocia. 29-28 mm. 10.58 grams. Sear 1853. DO 3.2 Constantine X, 8. Most coins of this type are garbled because they are poorly overstruck on earlier issues or badly double struck. It is hard to get one where the legend is legible. I bought this one because almost all the legend is well-struck and clear: Obverse: Christ standing. +ЄMMA-NOVHA "God is with us" Reverse: Eudocia (on left) and Constantine X (on right) standing, with each with hand holding labarum with cross on its staff. Constantine's hand is higher on the shaft. Legend begins at 1:30: +[B]KWN [/B]T ΔK [B]ЄVΔK[/B] AVΓ (Constantine Dukas Eudocia ...) (I expect [USER=84047]@Voulgaroktonou[/USER] knows the full translation and I hope he will contribute it below.) EDIT: [USER=84047]@Voulgaroktonou[/USER] did. In capital letters it would be [B]K[SIZE=6]ω[/SIZE]N[/B][Σ][B]Τ[/B][ΑΝΤΙΝΟΣ O] [B]Δ[/B][ΟY][B]Κ[/B][ΑΣ] [[B]ЄΥΔ[/B][Ο][B]Κ[/B][ΙΑ] [B]ΑYΓ[/B][ΟΥΣΤΟΙ] Constantine, (the) Doukas, Eudocia, Augusti [or, emperors] Normally with two rulers the place of honor would be on the left. This one has Eudocia, his wife, on the left. Grierson (DO 3.1, page 110) explains this unusual position by noting that the cross in the middle represents Christ who is in the middle, the correct place of honor when three figures are shown. When three are shown, the second-highest position is on the right, and Constantine is there as he should be. He notes this is the only Byzantine issue with two figures with the higher-ranking on the right. Show us some post-anonymous named folles with a legible name![/QUOTE]
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