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<p>[QUOTE="David@PCC, post: 3408268, member: 80556"]2 1/2 years ago I posted a question about sideburns and this month someone (actually CNG) addressed the very question I asked. It appears that this ruler has 2, and now 3 types of sideburns. My original post <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/are-these-elvis-chops-antiochus-x.281578/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/are-these-elvis-chops-antiochus-x.281578/">Are these Elvis chops?</a> questioned if there really was a 3rd type of hair style for this type. I know what you are all thinking, and that is this has to be the most important question in classical numismatics ever asked <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>The first two are already known and published. Both from cngcoins.com.</p><p><b>No sideburn</b></p><p>[ATTACH=full]905133[/ATTACH]</p><p>350, Lot: 280. Estimate $200.</p><p>Sold for $465. This amount does not include the buyer’s fee. </p><p><br /></p><p>SELEUKID KINGS of SYRIA. Antiochos X Eusebes Philopator. Circa 94-88 BC. AR Tetradrachm (28mm, 15.55 g, 1h). Antioch mint. First Reign, struck 94 BC. Diademed head right / Zeus Nikephoros seated left, holding lotus-tipped scepter; [monogram and A] to outer left, monogram below throne; all within wreath. SC 2429.1c; HGC 9, 1287 corr. (<b>without sideburn</b>). Good VF, toned, tight flan. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><b>Long sideburn</b></p><p>[ATTACH=full]905134[/ATTACH] </p><p>367, Lot: 262. Estimate $300.</p><p>Sold for $1100. This amount does not include the buyer’s fee. </p><p><br /></p><p>SELEUKID EMPIRE. Antiochos X Eusebes Philopator. Circa 94-88 BC. AR Tetradrachm (27mm, 15.75 g, 12h). Antioch on the Orontes mint. First Reign, struck 94 BC. Diademed head right / Zeus Nikephoros seated left, holding scepter; monogram above A to outer left, monogram below throne; all within wreath. SC 2428 var. (unlisted upper left control and A below throne); HGC 9, 1287. Good VF, lightly toned. Unpublished variety.</p><p><br /></p><p>And thirdly my coin which has something between the two.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]905135[/ATTACH] </p><p>Similar type as the other two except for the distinction of the hair. I only take notice because Arthur Houghton, Catherine Lorber, or Oliver D. Hoover make a clear differentiation between long or no sideburns.</p><p><br /></p><p>Then came this coin from this months auction showing an obverse similar to mine.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]905136[/ATTACH]</p><p>439, Lot: 134. Estimate $200.</p><p>Sold for $700. This amount does not include the buyer’s fee. </p><p><br /></p><p>SELEUKID EMPIRE. Antiochos X Eusebes Philopator. Circa 94-88 BC. AR Tetradrachm (26mm, 15.55 g, 12h). Antioch on the Orontes mint. First reign at Antioch, 94 BC. Diademed head right, with short sideburn / Zeus Nikephoros seated left, holding scepter; to outer left, monogram above A; monogram below throne; all within wreath. SC 2428d var. (long sideburn) and 2429c var. (no sideburn); HGC 9, 1287 corr. (some without sideburn). EF. Unpublished variety.</p><p><br /></p><p>The authors of SC specifically note that the obverse portrait on this issue has a “long” sideburn (as SC 2428) or “no” sideburn (as SC 2429). The illustrations of the “long” sideburn show it extending far down the jawline, so this coin, with a sideburn extending just below the ear, certainly does not qualify under that description. At the same time, the illustrations of the “no” sideburn coins show not even a hint of a sideburn, so this coin also does not fall under that variety. Clearly, there is a need for a new variety, noting a “short” sideburn.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>So my question is answered, which is it is an unpublished variety. Here are the 3 side by side for comparison. </p><p>[ATTACH=full]905140[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p> </p><p>For those of you that have read this far I congratulate you. In order to get more than 5 people to read this post I've attached a poll to see which of the 4 is their fave, to get some interest going. Of course #4 would have to be this one.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]905144[/ATTACH]<a href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6b/Elvis_Presley_Publicity_Photo_for_The_Trouble_with_Girls_1968.jpg" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6b/Elvis_Presley_Publicity_Photo_for_The_Trouble_with_Girls_1968.jpg" rel="nofollow">https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6b/Elvis_Presley_Publicity_Photo_for_The_Trouble_with_Girls_1968.jpg</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Feel free to post any hair styles of rulers or of yourself if you wish.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="David@PCC, post: 3408268, member: 80556"]2 1/2 years ago I posted a question about sideburns and this month someone (actually CNG) addressed the very question I asked. It appears that this ruler has 2, and now 3 types of sideburns. My original post [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/are-these-elvis-chops-antiochus-x.281578/']Are these Elvis chops?[/URL] questioned if there really was a 3rd type of hair style for this type. I know what you are all thinking, and that is this has to be the most important question in classical numismatics ever asked :hilarious: The first two are already known and published. Both from cngcoins.com. [B]No sideburn[/B] [ATTACH=full]905133[/ATTACH] 350, Lot: 280. Estimate $200. Sold for $465. This amount does not include the buyer’s fee. SELEUKID KINGS of SYRIA. Antiochos X Eusebes Philopator. Circa 94-88 BC. AR Tetradrachm (28mm, 15.55 g, 1h). Antioch mint. First Reign, struck 94 BC. Diademed head right / Zeus Nikephoros seated left, holding lotus-tipped scepter; [monogram and A] to outer left, monogram below throne; all within wreath. SC 2429.1c; HGC 9, 1287 corr. ([B]without sideburn[/B]). Good VF, toned, tight flan. [B]Long sideburn[/B] [ATTACH=full]905134[/ATTACH] 367, Lot: 262. Estimate $300. Sold for $1100. This amount does not include the buyer’s fee. SELEUKID EMPIRE. Antiochos X Eusebes Philopator. Circa 94-88 BC. AR Tetradrachm (27mm, 15.75 g, 12h). Antioch on the Orontes mint. First Reign, struck 94 BC. Diademed head right / Zeus Nikephoros seated left, holding scepter; monogram above A to outer left, monogram below throne; all within wreath. SC 2428 var. (unlisted upper left control and A below throne); HGC 9, 1287. Good VF, lightly toned. Unpublished variety. And thirdly my coin which has something between the two. [ATTACH=full]905135[/ATTACH] Similar type as the other two except for the distinction of the hair. I only take notice because Arthur Houghton, Catherine Lorber, or Oliver D. Hoover make a clear differentiation between long or no sideburns. Then came this coin from this months auction showing an obverse similar to mine. [ATTACH=full]905136[/ATTACH] 439, Lot: 134. Estimate $200. Sold for $700. This amount does not include the buyer’s fee. SELEUKID EMPIRE. Antiochos X Eusebes Philopator. Circa 94-88 BC. AR Tetradrachm (26mm, 15.55 g, 12h). Antioch on the Orontes mint. First reign at Antioch, 94 BC. Diademed head right, with short sideburn / Zeus Nikephoros seated left, holding scepter; to outer left, monogram above A; monogram below throne; all within wreath. SC 2428d var. (long sideburn) and 2429c var. (no sideburn); HGC 9, 1287 corr. (some without sideburn). EF. Unpublished variety. The authors of SC specifically note that the obverse portrait on this issue has a “long” sideburn (as SC 2428) or “no” sideburn (as SC 2429). The illustrations of the “long” sideburn show it extending far down the jawline, so this coin, with a sideburn extending just below the ear, certainly does not qualify under that description. At the same time, the illustrations of the “no” sideburn coins show not even a hint of a sideburn, so this coin also does not fall under that variety. Clearly, there is a need for a new variety, noting a “short” sideburn. So my question is answered, which is it is an unpublished variety. Here are the 3 side by side for comparison. [ATTACH=full]905140[/ATTACH] For those of you that have read this far I congratulate you. In order to get more than 5 people to read this post I've attached a poll to see which of the 4 is their fave, to get some interest going. Of course #4 would have to be this one. [ATTACH=full]905144[/ATTACH][url]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6b/Elvis_Presley_Publicity_Photo_for_The_Trouble_with_Girls_1968.jpg[/url] Feel free to post any hair styles of rulers or of yourself if you wish.[/QUOTE]
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