Log in or Sign up
Coin Talk
Home
Forums
>
Coin Forums
>
Ancient Coins
>
Aes Grave Nummus Apollo Rooster
>
Reply to Thread
Message:
<p>[QUOTE="rrdenarius, post: 5376080, member: 75525"][USER=114274]@Iepto[/USER] has a good link. My experience does not agree that most Roman coins have consistent die rotations.</p><p><br /></p><p>US coins are "coin turn" or the reverse and obverse are 180 degrees apart. That is one side points up and one down. Medal sides normally both point up, thus "medal turn". </p><p><br /></p><p>Roman Republican coins were struck with one die fixed in an anvil and one die hand held. The orientation could vary unless the mint workers took care with alignment. Most of my RR coins have random die orientations. Roman Imperial coins had random die orientations until scissor shaped die holders produced consistent die rotations. (At least I think this is true for Roman Imperial coins. Someone more versed can correct me). </p><p>Cast RR coins had consistent die orientations. I think well over 90% of the cast coins I have seen (in hand or in pictures) are 12H. There are a few percent with 6H and even less with 3H. This is the first time I have seen most of the coins with 2H.</p><p> [ATTACH=full]1229814[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1229815[/ATTACH]</p><p>The bottom two coins above have 12H die rotation. You can confirm that by the location of chips where coins were broken from their casting sprews. The top coin (a pig / pig quadrans) is the first coin I bought with a 6H die rotation. Before I bought the coin I checked with others who know more than me and they confirmed that some aes grave are not 12H. Note the 3 coins belong to the horse head series.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1229816[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1229817[/ATTACH]</p><p>This is one of the first aes grave I bought with a 3H die rotation.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1229818[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1229824[/ATTACH]</p><p>Some cast coins are difficult to tell die rotation. Some Roman anchors point up. This one points down. The barley grain on both sides of the coin in the top pictures has a pointed end up. Some barley grains are worn enough that there is no pointed end.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="rrdenarius, post: 5376080, member: 75525"][USER=114274]@Iepto[/USER] has a good link. My experience does not agree that most Roman coins have consistent die rotations. US coins are "coin turn" or the reverse and obverse are 180 degrees apart. That is one side points up and one down. Medal sides normally both point up, thus "medal turn". Roman Republican coins were struck with one die fixed in an anvil and one die hand held. The orientation could vary unless the mint workers took care with alignment. Most of my RR coins have random die orientations. Roman Imperial coins had random die orientations until scissor shaped die holders produced consistent die rotations. (At least I think this is true for Roman Imperial coins. Someone more versed can correct me). Cast RR coins had consistent die orientations. I think well over 90% of the cast coins I have seen (in hand or in pictures) are 12H. There are a few percent with 6H and even less with 3H. This is the first time I have seen most of the coins with 2H. [ATTACH=full]1229814[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1229815[/ATTACH] The bottom two coins above have 12H die rotation. You can confirm that by the location of chips where coins were broken from their casting sprews. The top coin (a pig / pig quadrans) is the first coin I bought with a 6H die rotation. Before I bought the coin I checked with others who know more than me and they confirmed that some aes grave are not 12H. Note the 3 coins belong to the horse head series. [ATTACH=full]1229816[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1229817[/ATTACH] This is one of the first aes grave I bought with a 3H die rotation. [ATTACH=full]1229818[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1229824[/ATTACH] Some cast coins are difficult to tell die rotation. Some Roman anchors point up. This one points down. The barley grain on both sides of the coin in the top pictures has a pointed end up. Some barley grains are worn enough that there is no pointed end.[/QUOTE]
Your name or email address:
Do you already have an account?
No, create an account now.
Yes, my password is:
Forgot your password?
Stay logged in
Coin Talk
Home
Forums
>
Coin Forums
>
Ancient Coins
>
Aes Grave Nummus Apollo Rooster
>
Home
Home
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Activity
Recent Posts
Forums
Forums
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Posts
Competitions
Competitions
Quick Links
Competition Index
Rules, Terms & Conditions
Gallery
Gallery
Quick Links
Search Media
New Media
Showcase
Showcase
Quick Links
Search Items
Most Active Members
New Items
Directory
Directory
Quick Links
Directory Home
New Listings
Members
Members
Quick Links
Notable Members
Current Visitors
Recent Activity
New Profile Posts
Sponsors
Menu
Search
Search titles only
Posted by Member:
Separate names with a comma.
Newer Than:
Search this thread only
Search this forum only
Display results as threads
Useful Searches
Recent Posts
More...