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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;rrdenarius, post: 5372029, member: 75525&quot;]Three interesting cast bronze coins arrived late last year. The seller listed them as different degrees of rare. </p><p>[ATTACH=full]1229191[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1229192[/ATTACH] </p><p>I normally look at the number of examples listed by Haeberlin and the number of coins on acsearch. I do not remember seeing two of these coins at auction.</p><ul> <li>Horse Head / Horse Head, Triens, was listed as scarce, 111 examples in Haeberlin and 48 examples on acsearch.</li> <li>Apollo / Rooster, Nummus or As, was listed as Very Rare, 36 examples in Haeberlin and 6 examples on acsearch.</li> <li>Beetle / 4 petal flower, Semuncia, was listed as Very Rare, 28 examples in Haeberlin and 8 examples on acsearch.</li> </ul><p>I mentioned the sumuncia recently and will cover the Triens separately. </p><blockquote><p><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/rare-aes-grave-in-the-recent-bfa-auction-high-wow-factor.371680/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/rare-aes-grave-in-the-recent-bfa-auction-high-wow-factor.371680/">Rare Aes Grave in the recent BFA auction - high wow factor | Coin Talk</a></p></blockquote><p><br /></p><p>My pics.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1229234[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1229235[/ATTACH]</p><p>Seller&#039;s pics.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1229236[/ATTACH]</p><p>Cast AE Nummus (As), Apulia, Luceria, 225-217 BC</p><p>Obv - Head Apollo left, hair tied with ribbon; below chin – mark of value: I</p><p>Rv. Rooster standing left. Most books list 3 variations on this coin. Two types have letters around the rooster: L.SEXTI.SEP.BABI or M.LAVINIO. A third type has no letters.</p><p>Untouched green patina, about extremely fine.</p><p>214.5 grams</p><p>64.7 X 67.5 X 14.6 mm</p><p>2 H - this is normal for this series, but unusual because most cast coins are 12 H</p><p>I found this coin in a few references:</p><p>TV&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 195&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Note: 194a &amp; 194b with letters&nbsp; </p><p>ICC&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 336&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Note: 334 &amp; 335 with letters</p><p>Sydenham&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; AG&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 134&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Note: 135 &amp; 136 with letters</p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Cat&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 149</p><p>Haeberlin&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </p><p>page 154, a - with double magistrate name, 4 coins, 284 g; T 95 #12; T102 #2</p><p>page 154, b - with a simple magistrate name; 1 coin; wt. 272 g; T 102 #1</p><p>page 155, c – no name; 36 coins; avg wt. 226 g; T 64 #6 – 10; T 65 #1</p><p>Garrucci&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </p><p>pg 34, tab LXIII #2 without letters</p><p>pg 39, tab supl LXX #3 &amp; #4 with letters</p><p>HNItaly&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 669&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; lists 3 types in same #</p><p>BMC, G, Italy&nbsp;&nbsp; pg 137, Apula, Luceria #2 – 5</p><p><br /></p><p>Both Garrucci and Haeberlin (T 102) mention false coins when covering coins with letters. I am not sure exactly what they say because I do not speak German or Italian, but might mean barbarous style. Sydenham and Vecchi do not make similar comments.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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