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<p>[QUOTE="TIF, post: 3433022, member: 56859"]It might be best to combine this thread with <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/aelius-ex-dattari-collection.335588/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/aelius-ex-dattari-collection.335588/">the one in which you showed your Aelius</a> so that we don't have to flip back and forth between the threads for the ongoing discussion. You can ask a moderator to do that (just click the report button and type your request, or send one of the moderators a private message).</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Where is the correction? I don't see it edited in the other thread nor did you post again in that thread. In that thread you listed your coin as being 33 mm and 11.77 gm. What was in error-- the diameter, the weight, or both? What are the actual measurements?</p><p><br /></p><p><b>[Edited: Oh, is your coin #28 on your table, 28 mm and 11.77 gm? If so, that is squarely within the expected range of a "hemidrachm".]</b></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Here is the entirety of <a href="https://archive.org/stream/moneteimperialig01datt#page/130/mode/2up" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://archive.org/stream/moneteimperialig01datt#page/130/mode/2up" rel="nofollow">Dattari's original section for Aelius</a>:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]911452[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]911453[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Dattari-Savio plate 103 shows all six coins listed in the original Dattari and none match your coin, so your coin is definitely not part of the Dattari collection <i>as listed in the original catalog</i>. It <i>could</i> still be an ex-Dattari coin though, as discussed in the other thread, but unless you can track the sale of the coin back to Dattari, you'll be taking that on faith.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Could you add another column to that table to show what denomination the coin was called in the ACsearch listing? That might be interesting.</p><p><br /></p><p>Die axis doesn't seem important in for coins of Roman Egypt. It was usually 12:00 or close to that. I'm not sure there is any significant meaning to be drawn from minor variations.</p><p><br /></p><p>...</p><p><br /></p><p>I might as well use this opportunity to show my Aelius coins again <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>First, an incredibly generous Secret Saturn gift received last year:</p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/aeliustet-ss2018-rt-jpg.861024/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><b>EGYPT, Alexandria. Aelius</b></p><p>137 CE</p><p>Billon tetradrachm; 23 mm, 13.16 gm</p><p>Obv: ΛAIΛIOCKAICAP; bare head right</p><p>Rev: ΔHM EΞOVC VΠAT B; Homonoia standing left, holding cornucopiae and patera over garlanded altar</p><p>Ref: Köln 1271; Milne 1539; Emmett 1350.2</p><p><i>Ex John A. Seeger Collection</i></p><p><i>Gift from my CoinTalk Secret Saturn, 2018</i></p><p><br /></p><p>Here's a diobol I picked up ~five years ago.</p><p><img src="https://static.wixstatic.com/media/ae43f8_0de4f044837747e9beb5ac8547bfd643.jpg/v1/fill/w_1000,h_497,al_c,q_90/ae43f8_0de4f044837747e9beb5ac8547bfd643.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><b>EGYPT, Alexandria. Aelius</b></p><p>year 2, CE 137</p><p>diobol, 24.5 mm, 11.5 gm</p><p>Obv: ΛA IΛ IOCKAICAP, bare head right</p><p>Rev: ΔHMEΞOVC VΠAT B, Homonoia standing left, holding patera and corn</p><p>Ref: Emmett 1353.2[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="TIF, post: 3433022, member: 56859"]It might be best to combine this thread with [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/aelius-ex-dattari-collection.335588/']the one in which you showed your Aelius[/URL] so that we don't have to flip back and forth between the threads for the ongoing discussion. You can ask a moderator to do that (just click the report button and type your request, or send one of the moderators a private message). Where is the correction? I don't see it edited in the other thread nor did you post again in that thread. In that thread you listed your coin as being 33 mm and 11.77 gm. What was in error-- the diameter, the weight, or both? What are the actual measurements? [B][Edited: Oh, is your coin #28 on your table, 28 mm and 11.77 gm? If so, that is squarely within the expected range of a "hemidrachm".][/B] Here is the entirety of [URL='https://archive.org/stream/moneteimperialig01datt#page/130/mode/2up']Dattari's original section for Aelius[/URL]: [ATTACH=full]911452[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]911453[/ATTACH] Dattari-Savio plate 103 shows all six coins listed in the original Dattari and none match your coin, so your coin is definitely not part of the Dattari collection [I]as listed in the original catalog[/I]. It [I]could[/I] still be an ex-Dattari coin though, as discussed in the other thread, but unless you can track the sale of the coin back to Dattari, you'll be taking that on faith. Could you add another column to that table to show what denomination the coin was called in the ACsearch listing? That might be interesting. Die axis doesn't seem important in for coins of Roman Egypt. It was usually 12:00 or close to that. I'm not sure there is any significant meaning to be drawn from minor variations. ... I might as well use this opportunity to show my Aelius coins again :D First, an incredibly generous Secret Saturn gift received last year: [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/aeliustet-ss2018-rt-jpg.861024/[/IMG] [B]EGYPT, Alexandria. Aelius[/B] 137 CE Billon tetradrachm; 23 mm, 13.16 gm Obv: ΛAIΛIOCKAICAP; bare head right Rev: ΔHM EΞOVC VΠAT B; Homonoia standing left, holding cornucopiae and patera over garlanded altar Ref: Köln 1271; Milne 1539; Emmett 1350.2 [I]Ex John A. Seeger Collection Gift from my CoinTalk Secret Saturn, 2018[/I] Here's a diobol I picked up ~five years ago. [IMG]https://static.wixstatic.com/media/ae43f8_0de4f044837747e9beb5ac8547bfd643.jpg/v1/fill/w_1000,h_497,al_c,q_90/ae43f8_0de4f044837747e9beb5ac8547bfd643.jpg[/IMG] [B]EGYPT, Alexandria. Aelius[/B] year 2, CE 137 diobol, 24.5 mm, 11.5 gm Obv: ΛA IΛ IOCKAICAP, bare head right Rev: ΔHMEΞOVC VΠAT B, Homonoia standing left, holding patera and corn Ref: Emmett 1353.2[/QUOTE]
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