Aegis or no Aegis - that is the question!

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Julius Germanicus, Jun 26, 2019.

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Do you see traces of an Aegis here?

  1. No

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  2. Yes

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  3. No, but I see traces of a globe

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  1. Julius Germanicus

    Julius Germanicus Supporter! Supporter

    There are three opinions on the identity of my Nero Sestertius, mainly depending on if he is wearing an Aegis on the obverse.

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    NERO CLAVD CAESAR AVG GER P M TR P IMP P P - Laureate head right
    PACE P R TERRA MARIQ PARTA IANVM CLVSIT - Temple with doors to the left
    Sestertius, Rome 65 aD
    32,42 mm / 22,85 gr

    I cannot see one and some experts agree, which would make this an obscure type (BMCRE 158, Giard 371, Cayon 165) of which I have not seen another specimen yet.
    Does anyone here have access to Giard (Cabinet de la Bibliotheque Nationale) or Cayon (Los Sestercios del Imperio Romano)???

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    Other experts do see traces of an Aegis between the P PP and the neck, which would make this a specimen of the common type RIC 264, BMCRE 156.

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    The seller even listed the coin as RIC 438, which should have a globe at the tip of the bust, which I do not see at all.

    What do you think?

    Die matches would of course help...
     

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  3. Nicholas Molinari

    Nicholas Molinari Well-Known Member

    Are the folks claiming to see traces of an aegis also stating it was removed by smoothing?

    I see no aegis.
     
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  4. Jay GT4

    Jay GT4 Well-Known Member

    I see no aegis either. The person who would have those references and be the most knowledgeable is Curtis Clay over at Forum
     
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  5. Julius Germanicus

    Julius Germanicus Supporter! Supporter

    Just found an obverse die match I think! You guys got it right - it looks like there never was an Aegis on my coin either o_O

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    So this indeed exists as a bust type not found in RIC for this combination of legends and reverse!
     
  6. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter Roma Invicta

    I don't see an aegis.
     
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