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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Gallienus, post: 2601630, member: 42034&quot;]Thanks for your comments on my Agean turtle didrachma. Sorry about the delay in posting but I was resident in Brazil (Sao Paulo) for 3 years and am just now moving back to the US. Details of my “Coins of Ancient Civilizations” talk. The kids were extremely interested as they had just finished a semester on Ancient Civilizations &amp; I had a lot of questions as you can see.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://www.coinsandhistory.com/pix_cointalk/PDomus_pres-pix__1938_1040px.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>There are no bank safety deposit boxes in Brazil. My turtle was one of the coins I brought to Brazil as it was historic and representative without being super expensive. I didn’t want to tempt fate by writing about it before my coins were safe.</p><p><br /></p><p>The turtle you linked to is quite interesting; I’ve heard that the completely smooth shelled turtles were the earliest type. Is this the type to which they are referring -or is there another, more common smooth shelled type which came between the CNG coin (2007, lot 504, early class A, ca. 550- 530 BC) and my three pellets type with the collar?</p><p><br /></p><p>I’m surprised that my type isn’t earlier. I believe the listed dates for the smooth shell with pellets are 475 – 457 BC. It seems that this is a very narrow period for such a prolific and major trade coin? The period extension granted by the early CNG type specimen seems too insignificant given that they’re only two known specimens of this type.</p><p><br /></p><p>You’ll be happy to know that I did include your coin in my slide on early Greece. I pushed the starting date back based on the CNG turtle didrachma circulating in the mid 6th century BC.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://www.coinsandhistory.com/pix_cointalk/Coins of Ancient Empires p03 720px.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p><p>Regarding your question on references: I have nothing specialized for early Greek.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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