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<p>[QUOTE="Gallienus, post: 2577563, member: 42034"]Well I just have a semi-cheap one bought from Stack's NYICS auction, Jan 2016. It's the smooth shelled type, however I'm wondering if I should have held out for an earlier type or an unusual or high grade specimen? This was bought sight unseen as a choice VF with no "eyes on" for the coin.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://www.coinsandhistory.com/pix_coin/Ancients/Greece_Aegea_turtle-stater_both_Stacks.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>This piece proved useful despite the lower grade. I was invited to do a presentation on "Ancient Coins" for a high school class that was finishing their semester on Ancient Civilizations in Sao Paulo, Brazil. I thus brought a small collection of Ancients from the US to Brazil for the presentation (last week). Due to possible problems with customs and stuff in general in Brazil, I'd prefer not to transport many super high grade pieces: not that I have those.</p><p><br /></p><p>Also I have a question? This piece is frequently listed as being struck from 480 - 457 BC. Turtles are said to have been struck from 600 BC (or at least 550 BC) & following and were made in immense quantities. However, the types earlier than this appear very infrequently in auctions and it seems unlikely that the whole population of turtles was made during just a 23 year period as above.</p><p><br /></p><p>I've seen production estimates of 70,000 turtles/year however, for 23 years this would seem to imply that only 1.4 million pcs were struck (excluding the very rare archaic types). Given attrition & the fact that most people should be happy to trade their turtles in for Athenian tetradrachmas, I'd expect a higher mintage.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Gallienus, post: 2577563, member: 42034"]Well I just have a semi-cheap one bought from Stack's NYICS auction, Jan 2016. It's the smooth shelled type, however I'm wondering if I should have held out for an earlier type or an unusual or high grade specimen? This was bought sight unseen as a choice VF with no "eyes on" for the coin. [IMG]http://www.coinsandhistory.com/pix_coin/Ancients/Greece_Aegea_turtle-stater_both_Stacks.jpg[/IMG] This piece proved useful despite the lower grade. I was invited to do a presentation on "Ancient Coins" for a high school class that was finishing their semester on Ancient Civilizations in Sao Paulo, Brazil. I thus brought a small collection of Ancients from the US to Brazil for the presentation (last week). Due to possible problems with customs and stuff in general in Brazil, I'd prefer not to transport many super high grade pieces: not that I have those. Also I have a question? This piece is frequently listed as being struck from 480 - 457 BC. Turtles are said to have been struck from 600 BC (or at least 550 BC) & following and were made in immense quantities. However, the types earlier than this appear very infrequently in auctions and it seems unlikely that the whole population of turtles was made during just a 23 year period as above. I've seen production estimates of 70,000 turtles/year however, for 23 years this would seem to imply that only 1.4 million pcs were struck (excluding the very rare archaic types). Given attrition & the fact that most people should be happy to trade their turtles in for Athenian tetradrachmas, I'd expect a higher mintage.[/QUOTE]
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